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A student suggests Lucifer's closeness to light may paradoxically expose him to darkness, making him the most likely angel to turn.
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A student frames lust through Adam and Eve as ego, shame, and hiding from God rather than as pure love.
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The quoted passage says some angels fell almost immediately through cursed pride while the rest remained in unbroken contemplative service.
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The student argues that if Satan truly made humanity eat the fruit or enslaved free will, then Satan would be more powerful than God, so the Fall must still involve human free choice.
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Jiang says the Christian puzzle is that God's anger at humanity after the Fall is understandable, but it still makes no intuitive sense that an innocent Jesus must sacrifice himself to answer that anger.
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Once a team or empire reaches number one and then falls, it usually cannot recover because arrogance prevents honest reflection; a later group may reuse the name but is not the same people.
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The plot of Paradise Lost is introduced as Milton's reimagining of the fall, with Satan turning from defeated rebel to the one who volunteers to go to Eden.
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"I think this is quite a prosaic interpretation, but because he's the God of light, sorry, the angel of light, it is in his..."
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"...into the relationship and then bringing back to the to the fall adam and eve uh ate the apple and they saw they were..."
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"...you can see, that they never desert their circling contemplation. The fall had its beginning in the cursed pride of the one you saw,..."
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"so i think uh again i'm just picking out words picking hairs here but i'm saying that satan made us eat the fruit satan..."
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"but that is assuming that satan is as powerful as god and satan has the right"
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"sentence okay what it means is god should be angry at us for betraying him for eating the fruit when he told us not..."
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"...see this in history where an empire, once it rises, it falls, it never comes back. It never comes back. Okay? Do you understand?..."
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"...that you have a system where, okay, uh, team one, they fall, but then they reflect and become number one again. Okay? It doesn't..."
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"...Okay? Alright? That's what should happen where, yes, team ten will fall off and a new team will come into place. Okay? if you..."
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"...Paradise Lost is really, really simple. It's trying to reimagine the fall of man. Remember, Adam and Eve are in the Garden of Eden...."
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"...and then and i'm exhausted after a day's work and i fall asleep and like okay well my mind is blank and i'm not..."
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"...of Rome confounds two powers in itself into the fill that falls and fouls itself in its new burden. Good Marco, I replied, you..."
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A source-grounded reading of Jiang's central claim: late Inferno is where private vice hardens into social design.
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Jiang turns late Inferno and early Purgatorio into a struggle over imagination itself.
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A source-grounded reading of the seminar's central move: Inferno is not only a theater of punishments but a machine for moral reflection, and Virgil's authority keeps showing the limits that Dante will eventually have...
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A source-grounded reading of Jiang's World Game lecture: empires do not usually come from the obvious rich center.
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