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Jiang provocatively recasts Jesus and Zarathustra as poets rather than religious figures.
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Jesus
Jesus is immortal and present as a high vibration because people love, imagine, and believe in him.
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Jesus is immortal and present as a high vibration because people love, imagine, and believe in him.
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A person's body can become a vessel or portal for Jesus to inhabit if the person welcomes Jesus through love, generosity, forgiveness, and other spiritual practices.
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Frank’s Jesus-water dream is interpreted as a claim that life and messianic authority flow away from Jesus toward Frank.
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Christology creates a logical problem: if Jesus is divine, Mary’s birth and Jesus’s death become incoherent; if Jesus is human, the sacrifice makes more sense.
historical-claim
Nestorians preserve the idea of Jesus as human messenger rather than God and spread east into Persia, Arabia, and the Middle East after persecution.
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Jiang interprets the Quran as Nestorian: Jesus is not God but a messenger who tells people to worship Allah, the one God.
diagnosis
The Catholic Church becomes extremely wealthy despite Jesus’s anti-rich teaching, because Western Europe’s growing population, trade, cities, climate, and technology enrich the institution.
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"...look at all these great religious figures of the past, including Jesus, including Zarathustra. They weren't religious figures. They were really poets. Okay? And..."
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"...it becomes true. Okay? So who's the most in the world? Jesus. Right? So Jesus is immortal. He's eternal because there are two million..."
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"Okay? Alright? So he's a high vibration. Jesus. And the question is how do you resurrect Jesus? How do you bring him back? And..."
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"...if you are a Christian you believe the second coming that Jesus will return. And Christian mystics believe that yes, he can always return..."
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"Should I read this? Maybe not. In a dream, I saw Jesus, having priests around him, sitting at a spring of living and clean,..."
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"Okay, so it's very simple, right? You think Jesus is the Messiah? Wrong! I'm the true Messiah, okay? Because the water flows to me,..."
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"Remember, the story is that Jesus is in heaven, then he comes to Earth. Mary gives birth to Jesus. Then Jesus preaches his message,..."
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"The first interpretation is, Jesus is divine in heaven, but he's human in the world. Okay, does that make sense? So yes, Mary gave..."
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"...Persia, they went to Arabia, where they spread the message of Jesus, they taught Jesus as a human, as opposed to a God. They..."
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"...this is really important. What the Quran is saying is this. Jesus is not God. God is God. God is Allah. Jesus is a..."
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"They disbelieved those who say, Allah is a third of three. But there is no giant except one God. If they do not refrain..."
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"Okay, so it's just saying that the Holy Trinity, it's sacrilege. It's blessing. Trust me, it makes no sense, man. God is God. God..."
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