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The prior condition for forgiving others; without it, guilt turns outward into continuing injury.
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self-forgiveness
The prior condition for forgiving others; without it, guilt turns outward into continuing injury.
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The state Achilles reaches only after Priam forgives him and allows him to grieve Patroclus.
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No one can redeem a person from hell for them; redemption requires the person to choose self-forgiveness, love, and imaginative expansion.
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Punishment and forgiveness are not opposites: a person can serve prison time and still need Jesus forgiveness to move on.
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In real life, guilt and responsibility are usually mixed; people struggle to forgive others because they first cannot forgive themselves.
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The Iliad's civilizing movement transforms Achilles from cold-blooded, merciless, vain warrior into a man capable of pity, self-reflection, and self-forgiveness.
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"And then he's able to restore himself. All right? Okay, so there's two dynamics at work. When you love someone, when you do good,..."
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"emotions and so what their punishment in hell is is it's being whipped around in a whirlwind okay and the purpose so the purpose..."
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"think I still could not forgive myself for making that mistake like I think whatever things that I do to make make up the..."
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"...okay that doesn't make sense if in a world there's no forgiveness this world would break down really quickly because everyone would just kill..."
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"life experience then you'll be able to feel your heart once you feel your heart all this will make sense to you okay but..."
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"why because they love their people okay so Priam saw Hector in the face of Achilles Achilles saw his father in the face of..."
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"...number three it's almost never number one or number two so forgiveness is something that we encounter every day all right every day we..."
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"And in response, Achilles stands and he is in awe of this old man who at this moment has demonstrated more courage, more strength..."
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"...into a man who is capable of pity, self -reflection, and self -forgiveness. Okay? And you can argue that this is a process of..."
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"...the reason why is we are less capable of engaging in self -forgiveness all right so it's not that others refuse to forgive us..."
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A source-grounded reading of Jiang's Jesus lecture: Christianity begins as a pile of impossible doctrines, the historical Jesus is thinner and stranger, the Gospel of Thomas makes him a poet-prophet of the divine spark,...
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A source-grounded reading of Jiang’s lecture on Homer as the big bang of Greek civilization: empire turns writing into control, the polis turns speech into civic training, and the Iliad turns war into the...
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