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Virgil's account that virtuous non-Christians are doomed in limbo is something Dante is suspicious of and that the poem will later show is untrue.
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Salvation
Virgil's account that virtuous non-Christians are doomed in limbo is something Dante is suspicious of and that the poem will later show is untrue.
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Virgil's claim that he is merely unlucky in limbo is incorrect; Jiang says Virgil chooses to be there and has paths toward salvation that he refuses.
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Jiang says Virgil's account that virtuous non-Christians are doomed in limbo will later prove untrue.
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Jiang says Virgil's claim that he is merely unlucky in limbo is incorrect; Jiang says Virgil chooses to remain in hell.
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Family love is presented as the answer that saves the world of the Odyssey.
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The bishop’s speech is interpreted as conventional religious salvation: leave the foul body and live in a heavenly mansion.
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Augustine systematizes Paul into the Church as beyond history, where kings fight for land but the Church decides heaven and hell.
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Jiang interprets Urban II’s crusade appeal as promising heaven to anyone who fights demons, including poor people, nobodies, criminals, and mercenaries.
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"And this is a really important idea if you are trying to understand Dante. Free will is a fundamental truth of the universe. You..."
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"And Virgil says there was only one time. And that was when Jesus died and he came to hell. To save and redeem those..."
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"The kindly master said, Do you not ask who are these spirits whom you see before you? I'd have you know before you go..."
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"...that Virgil chooses to be here. There are many paths for salvation reduction for him. But he wants to stay in hell. Okay? And..."
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"They're entering hell because they want to do so. And this is a really important idea if you are turning to Dante. Free will..."
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"Or that's what Virgil tells Dante. Dante is suspicious and and Dante asks Virgil, was there ever a time when people in hell could..."
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"...mind he chooses to be here there are many paths for salvation reduction for him he but he wants to stay in hell okay..."
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"There could be a trauma that splits the soul, okay? And it could be a demon. It could be a really painful incident. It..."
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"I met the bishop on the road and much said that he was a high religious authority."
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"Those breasts are flat and fallen now. Those veins must soon be dry. Live in a heavenly mansion not in some foul stye."
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"Okay. So you're fallen, right? So you've seen a lot in life. You've lived a terrible life. But don't worry. God is forgiving. If..."
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