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Jiang argues that Dante's plant-and-seed metaphor means family origin does not confine fate, because seed and plant are not identical.
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Fate
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A transcript-matched topic anchored by excerpts such as "...born as family does that does not actually uh confine your fate your family you're still independent of this family okay the seed and..."
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Bromwich uses Heraclitus and Henry James to argue that character and incident determine one another, so fate is disclosed through action.
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He defines the central problem of Macbeth as the nature of doing itself: once a deed is committed, it becomes a bearer of the doer's fate and cannot simply be left behind.
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Bromwich contrasts 'what's done is done' with 'what's done cannot be undone' to show the shift from dismissing the past to recognizing a fatal moral consequence in action.
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On fate, Bromwich says Shakespeare seems to believe in a moral order where wrongdoing is legible, evil has different causes and gradations, and truth has a strengthening power because human actions are witnessed and judged.
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Jiang says Dante and Beatrice are soulmates whose souls were meant for each other and remain aligned in the cosmos despite fate separating them in life.
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A student says Dante can move beyond resentment by embracing destiny and treating fate as part of his purpose.
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In Jiang's account of the pagan worldview, the universe is a circular procession like the seasons, an endless cycle in which there is nothing human beings can do to alter the pattern.
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"...born as family does that does not actually uh confine your fate your family you're still independent of this family okay the seed and..."
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"...you of the aphorism which we have from Heraclitus. Character is fate. The Greek of it is ethos, is the daimon, both of those..."
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"Incident coming to a sharp emphasis in the form of character. And what is incident but the illustration of character? I'm going to concentrate..."
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"...the nature of a deed, that it is a bearer of fate, and it is a bearer of the fate of the person who..."
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"expand a little on shakespeare's conception of of fate um i think he i i may be confusing his views but i think that..."
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"And the, what to say, assurance or clarity that Shakespeare seems to have from outside this all is that, I'm going to use a..."
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"...born and they were meant to be together, but because of fate, they have to separate. But their souls were still aligned together in..."
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"Yeah. Because his... To follow on to the... His fate is part of his destiny. So if he embraces his destiny, I think that..."
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"Exactly. You understand this, okay? You understand this is important. He is both Son of God and he's a man as well. You understand?..."
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"no okay no he did yeah could he be bringing randomness and luck into this at all"
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"she had a bad luck does does the story believe in in randomness and luck"
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"...Because often you're in trouble because you think you deserve your fate. And for someone to come along and says that I forgive you..."
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Jiang turns late Inferno and early Purgatorio into a struggle over imagination itself.
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