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Powerful memories stored in the Geist can give rise to new consciousnesses such as gods; older gods name deeper forces like honor, justice, fate, and destiny.
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Powerful memories stored in the Geist can give rise to new consciousnesses such as gods; older gods name deeper forces like honor, justice, fate, and destiny.
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Epiphany does not cancel tragedy: even after the spectator recognizes the lesson, figures such as Hector and Patroclus still fall.
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Oedipus is Jiang's example of tragedy as fate rather than simple moral guilt: in Sophocles, Jiang says Oedipus did nothing wrong, yet fate and accident still destroy him.
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Jiang defines greatness, arete, and eudaimonia in this tragic register as recognizing one's limitations, fate, and destiny while struggling regardless.
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Polytheism retains mind-over-matter and metaphor but adds gods who control humans, older forces such as fortune and fate, and immutable laws such as justice.
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The polytheistic worldview is introduced as a model of limited agency: humans are constantly shaped by gods, fate, fortune, anger, and pride.
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Polytheistic gods are authority, but not benevolent expert authority; they are proud, vengeful, arbitrary forces that can favor and abandon rulers.
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Eudaimonia is presented as flourishing under uncertainty: because fate cannot be controlled, one should live today to the best of one's ability.
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"...the beginning of time. And there are things like honor, justice. Fate. Destiny. Okay? And they're stronger than the new gods. Okay? But then..."
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"that oh it's hubris that leads to tragedy and therefore it will make you a much more humble person okay this is what we..."
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"you a much better person does it make sense guys all right even crime is this arm of habits horror and all its contagion..."
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"...by Sophocles he did nothing wrong it was it was just fate it was just an accident but unfortunately that's what life is about..."
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"So for example, we've never really figured out how the Egyptians created the pyramids. Our explanation is, aliens did it. Because their mind is..."
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"...absolutely no difference above the gods are the older gods fortune fate so the belief was that even though these are gods they're still..."
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"breaking the structure of the universe okay so this was the polytheistic worldview now when you go to the monotheistic worldview all this changes..."
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"...controlled by other gods that are more powerful. Like, for example, fate, fortune. And then there are these really ancient gods that control the..."
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"So, you obviously know individual agency because there's always a god screwing with you. Okay? You might get rich, but then the god of..."
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"I want to ask, like, in scenario one, rule number one, would God also be an authority? God will also be an authority."
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"...Homer the Iliad okay they talk about this all the time fate is something that you cannot control something that happens to you and..."
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"you tomorrow that kill you then live your life to the best of your ability today seize the day be the best that you..."
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