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He rejects the familiar Thucydides-trap frame by saying Athens, not Sparta, was the hegemonic empire and its allies dragged Sparta into a war Athens made unavoidable.
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Peloponnesian War
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Key Notes
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Athens’ Sicilian expedition is an empire’s lazy, stupid, arrogant mistake that brings Syracuse, Sparta, Persia, and allies against it and ends the Peloponnesian War.
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Jiang distinguishes Socrates from the Thirty Tyrants: Socrates refused to participate in the tyranny, but many tyrants came from wealthy families and had been his students.
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Jiang reads the Bacchae as a direct criticism of the Athenian Empire and the Peloponnesian War because Athens sacrificed young people to build empire.
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Jiang rejects the standard explanation that Sparta started the Peloponnesian War simply out of fear of rising Athens; he says Athens' imperial bullying gave other poleis no choice but to resist.
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The same culture of eudaimonia that allowed Athens to rise through expansion also caused Athens to decline through the Peloponnesian War.
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Jiang argues that both sides ignored obvious war-winning strategies involving the helots, which shows the Peloponnesian War cannot be understood primarily as rational military strategy.
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Sparta's decision not to destroy Athens is interpreted as evidence that Athens and Sparta were not true external enemies; upper nobility across the cities were socially aligned and used war to kill off lower-nobility pressure.
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"now um the united states main adversary is that china um it's really russia because russia is the only country that has the resources..."
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"to the peloponnesian war the main aggressor was athens and what happened ultimately was that um the entire world ultimately aligned against athens because..."
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"lot if it 's black or white And again I 'll show you why that 's the case l ater on Okay So for..."
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"But from for cities perspective they had to go to war because of their d ifferent person alities So S part a was cons..."
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"...would say in our age, I see tremendous analogies between the Peloponnesian War and today's America. America really much is a falling empire, and..."
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"...is I've looked at the Vietnam War I've looked at the Peloponnesian War where Athens invaded Sicily. I've looked at the Nazi Germany invasion..."
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"...Allison, and he did it for his reading of Thucydides' The Peloponnesian War. Okay. So I want to correct. The understanding of the Peloponnesian..."
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"...against the Athenians. And this is what led ultimately to the Peloponnesian War. And then Sparta was dragged into, unwillingly into this war. And..."
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"...like the best historical analogy for what's happening today is the Peloponnesian War. It's a book written by Fusilides, who is this Athenian general..."
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"Yeah. So my my biggest recommendation is the Peloponnesian War by Fucilides. And the reason why is that, you know, he's a theory in..."
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"...easiest thing to do. So, if you go back to the Peloponnesian War between Athens and Sparta, what Athens was doing was, to finance..."
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"why Athens went to war with Sparta okay and what he says is what's because Sparta is the hegemon and Athens is the rising..."
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