Greek civilization's major thinkers, including Plato, Thucydides, and Aeschylus, are derivative of Homer because they operate within Homer's universe while applying it differently.
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Thucydides
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Thucydides writes in a Homeric way because his characters give speeches, but unlike Homer he applies that mode to real people and real events.
He rejects the familiar Thucydides-trap frame by saying Athens, not Sparta, was the hegemonic empire and its allies dragged Sparta into a war Athens made unavoidable.
He argues that Homer, Plato, and Thucydides remain alive as practical forces because modern readers, students, and military leaders still use them to transform thought and action.
Greece inverted that hierarchy by placing Homer at the top, so Plato and Thucydides tried to become Homer-like teachers, inspirers, and begetters of civilization.
Jiang defines the Western geopolitical imagination as Thucydidean: states have souls, psychologies, emotional states, and personalities that drive action beyond utility.
Jiang says Chinese historical imagination overvalues genius figures such as Zhuge Liang and Sima Yi, while Thucydides cares more about large structural forces that drive states.
The Peloponnesian War began because a dominant Sparta confronted a rising Athens, not because particular individuals disliked each other.
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"The Athenians were very different. The Athenians were a trading. Power. And so they were very expansionist. They were very ambitious. We know about..."
"...in his speech two major historical allusions. The first is to Thucydides, and Thucydides is writing about the Peloponnesian War, and the war was..."
"So I think that with this Thucydides allusion, Mark Carney is sort of like hinting to his audience that we are at this moment..."
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