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Elite holders of status and power, named here as optimates.
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upper nobility
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A transcript-matched topic anchored by excerpts such as "Okay. So, to remind you, okay, the conflict arises between upper nobility and lower nobility. So, upper nobility are just the optimists, people like,..."
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Major conflicts are between upper nobility and lower nobility, not rich and poor; aspirational middle and rich people want more while the poor are inert.
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His alternative explanation is internal class/status conflict: upper nobility in both cities prefers preserving the status quo to winning wars that might empower lower-nobility rivals.
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The defensive strategy makes sense, in Jiang's model, because Pericles represents upper nobility and wants to wait out war rather than change the status quo.
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Sparta's decision not to destroy Athens is interpreted as evidence that Athens and Sparta were not true external enemies; upper nobility across the cities were socially aligned and used war to kill off lower-nobility pressure.
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"Okay. So, to remind you, okay, the conflict arises between upper nobility and lower nobility. So, upper nobility are just the optimists, people like,..."
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"The poor don't do anything. Okay? The poor just, like, I'm poor, I'm useless, I'll just sit and die. Okay? That's what poor people..."
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"...that the very basis of conflict in society is between the upper nobility and the upper nobility."
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"Okay? Do you understand? The upper nobility is only interested in maintaining the status quo. They're very conservative. They don't like wars because you..."
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"Athens is trying to maintain the status quo The war starts in 431 B.C. And a lot of people are saying, Pericles, hey, let's..."
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"...if you understand there's a internal conflict in Athens between the upper nobility and the lower nobility. Pericles represents the upper nobility he wants..."
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"...Okay? Does that make sense? So after Pericles dies the low nobility become ascendant. Okay? And because of this war they propose an aggressive..."
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"He laid siege to Athens in 404 BCE and then Athens had no choice but to surrender because they were out of food. Okay?..."
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"...Okay? Um but another explanation is well guess what guys? The upper nobility of Sparta and the upper nobility of Athens they're good friends..."
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"...food. It's called a grain dole. Okay? And so, now the nobility wants to go fight more wars. What they do is they bribe..."
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"...between the have some but want some more, okay, between the upper nobility and between the lower nobility. The problem is that as society..."
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"and have some but what more ok so usually between the upper nobility and the lower nobility and we see this throughout human history..."
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