The public status loss Agamemnon fears after Achilles challenges him; Jiang treats it as dangerous in a violent honor hierarchy.
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Lose face
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A transcript-matched topic anchored by excerpts such as "...do he's gonna see like you're your friend right you don't lose face you want to show how much in control you are right..."
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"...a response to Achilles. He feels as though Achilles made him lose face. So now he wants to make Achilles lose face as well...."
"...do he's gonna see like you're your friend right you don't lose face you want to show how much in control you are right..."
"...wars, but at the same time, he does not like to lose face."
"...loves this thing um and then Trump is doesn't want to lose face right he doesn't he he fears I mean the thing he..."
"...you know, because that might embarrass the teacher. The teacher might lose face and the teacher will intentionally, um, lower expectations. He will ask..."
"...And the answer is because Trump wants the European leaders to lose face."
"...because achilles wants agamemnon to apologize that agamemnon doesn't want to lose face so there's a real threat that the trojans will destroy the..."
"...say I'm wrong before your peers. You lower your status. You lose face. And that's why people who are more energetic, who are more..."
"...was not the spy. But the French military didn't want to lose face."
"...Achilles can defeat Hector in battle. But Agamemnon doesn't want to lose face. So he sends a delegation of generals led by a man..."
"...answer is credibility, okay? Credibility just means they didn't want to lose face. They didn't want to be laughed at by the Chinese and..."
"...is, unfortunately, the answer is credibility, okay? We don't want to lose face, guys, okay? We don't want to lose face. If we withdraw"
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