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          "excerpt": "They are. The curators. Of public opinion. But on the other hand. They know. All their power. Comes from. Their association. With the power elite. Okay. So. On one hand. They are. The ones. That. Who. They. So on one ha..."
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          "excerpt": "Was still allowed. The intellectuals. To. Protest. This is what led. To the Pentagon. Papers. And the publication. Of the Pentagon. Papers. In Washington. Post. And New York. Times. That's what. Forced the war. To come..."
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          "excerpt": "Refuse. To. Listen. To. Mainstream. News. When. They. Read. New York. Times. And. Said. This. Is. B.S. Man. When. Their. High. School. Teacher. No. Long. Has. Authority. Over. Them. They. See. Donald. Trump. As. The. Es..."
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          "excerpt": "Your. Students. Only. Have. To. Attention. To. You. Then. You're. Then. Why. Do. We. Colleges. Okay. And. Now. You. Have. A. I. And. The. Air. Revolution. It's. Not. About. Replacing. Blue. Collar. Workers. You. Can't...."
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          "excerpt": "Have. The. Promotion. Of. D.I. Transgenerism. Throughout. Schools. Because. That's. To. Brainwash. Kids. Into. Obedience. Okay. So. That's. My. Theory."
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          "excerpt": "We're. Seeing. It. Spelled. Out. Now. The. Maga. Cult. Which. Is. Similar. To. Robin. D 'Angelo. Who. You. Just. Referenced. With. Racism. The. Trump. Supporters. Now. They. Were. All. Anti -War. Last. Year. They. All...."
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          "excerpt": "Yeah. So. I'll. Tell. Your. Story. Right. So. In. 1992. There. Was. This. Election. Contest. Between. George. H.W. Bush. And. Bill. Clinton. And. Was. Assume. H.W. Bush. Would. Win. Easily. Because. First. Of. All. It's..."
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          "excerpt": "Okay. I'm. Wondering. Not. To. Harp. On. This. Forever. But. It's. Just. It's. Confusing. From. Your. Perspective. Growing. Up. In. You. Mostly. Grew. Up. In. China. Correct. Not. In. Canada."
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