Prof. Jiang: Iran Has Trump TRAPPED! Full Interview | Redacted w Clayton Morris

All right, we're lucky enough to be joined by Professor Jiang. He's the author of Predictive History on Substack. Of course, he went viral for accurately predicting that President Trump would take us to this war in Iran, and he's been right all along. So we want to invite the professor on now, given the president's most recent remarks about an open -ended ceasefire and that Iran is basically on the ropes, and he is actively trying to find an off -ramp to end this war. But of course, he's being pressured significantly by the Israelis and Mossad to continue this war. So we wanted to invite the professor on to talk about the war, economic depression, and everything else. Professor, welcome back to the show. Thanks, Clayton. Pleasure to have you here. So you heard the president yesterday release this statement about really like an open -ended ceasefire with Iran. And it seems like the president, among reports from

Washington, is actively trying to end this war, trying to find an off -ramp to get out of this. You predicted him getting into it. How do you predict he will try to get out of this?

Right. So I think Trump is very frustrated with this war. He was expecting a quick strike, like what happened in Venezuela, where Donald Forrest went in and kidnapped Maduro. It was a tremendous victory for America. So on the first day, the Israelis and Americans attacked Tehran and killed the Al -Atola. And he expected that the Iranians would capitulate right after that. But the ferocity and the resolve of the Iranians have taken Trump back. He didn't expect that the Iranians would close off the Sharia Homs, thus threatening the global economy. He didn't expect that the Iranians would attack the GCC energy infrastructure. And so this has been very humiliating for Trump. And from his perspective, he doesn't like to fight long wars of attrition. It's very unpopular back at home. And he doesn't really know how to spin this. So as you say, he would like very much. And he really believes that these negotiations in Islamabad would be his off -ramp.

Unfortunately, the Iranians see through Trump's antics. They refused to send a delegation to meet with Trump's team in Islamabad. So we are stuck in a situation where Trump wants an off -ramp. The Iranians refuse to negotiate. And quite honestly, I don't know how Trump developed his off -ramp. Because the Iranians have been able to control the Sharia Homs, even though Trump has imposed a naval blockade. That naval blockade is very porous. It's very leaky. There's reporting today that over 30 Iranian tankers have been able to break the blockade and sell their oil overseas. The Iranians now are threatening to cut overseas cables, which would destroy the internet of Dubai and basically destroy Dubai as an economy, because they rely so much on the internet connection with the rest of the world. They would no longer be able to do any international banking. And this is not Dubai. The Iranians

are also threatening all the other GCC economies, threatening to close off the Red Sea for their proxies, the Houthis, and threatening to destroy pipelines and basically take one -third of the world's energy offline. So this is a very dire situation for the GCC. And as such, there's a lot of pressure on the Trump White House, primarily through Kushner, to seek a resolution as soon as possible. There are only two off -ramps. The first off -ramp is for Trump to pay reparations to Iran, maybe about $200 million, and then to give sovereignty to Iranians over the Sharia Homs and remove U.S. bases from the Middle East. The second solution is sending ground forces, and I'm not going to go into that right now, but I'm going to go into that in a second. escalate the situation and hope that ground forces will be able to topple the regime and instill a much more friendly regime to the United States.

So those are the two major solutions. Unfortunately, it seems as though there is no real off -ramp or quick exit for Trump. This war is going to drag on possibly for months, possibly even for years. What I think Trump's going to do is that he might switch his attention to Cuba, because he's already on the verge of losing his life. So as you know, right now, there's this massive embargo on Cuba. There are blackouts everywhere, and they have the rational, rational food and fuel. And the Pentagon is all plans to actually invade Cuba at some point. It's possible that Trump threatens Canada. He's been having this fight with Carney for the longest time over a new NAFTA. It's possible that he's going to do this possible he sends in special forces to attack the cartels in Mexico. But what we know from Trump is that he does not like long wars, but at the same time, he does not like to lose face.

So it's possible that Trump being Trump, he just distracts us with a new war somewhere else. Well, right. I want to ask about the lived experience.

That's exactly what I was just thinking. You know, a lot of people, even in our audience of geopolitical enthusiasts, are starting to just get tired and bored of this back and forth. We're at war. We're going to destroy them completely. Never mind. We're on a sea fire. Now we're going to kill them. We're going to beat the shit out. And now it's OK. And how can we possibly stay engaged with this? But this may be a tactic to keep us weary while the war drags on. And I'm wondering, because I lived through the 20 years of the war in Afghanistan, the eight years of the Gulf War, that how maybe this is how it was done. Maybe I was just too young to know that it just keeps going. And then we're like, well, it might end at one point. Is this a part of it? I think so.

I think I think that we will be slowly desensitized, normalized into another forever war in Iran. So what we're looking at right now is not actually a ceasefire. We're actually looking at round two or recalibration of American strategy. So in round one, remember, the Americans focused on shock and awe, basically trying to decapitate the regime through strategic strikes. And they did kill a lot of people. They killed some of the people. And the government is still resilient. It's still standing. So that has failed. And round two is basically trying to impose a blockade on the Iranian economy, basically trying to straggle the economy. So we're not actually seeing a ceasefire. If there's a ceasefire, you're not you would not blockade the Shavuot Hormuz because that's an act of war. What we're seeing is recalibration. So and and and basically I think they will continue this for as long as it takes to topple the government in Iran.

in Tehran. But what's going to happen, as you point out, is that eventually we'll get sick of all this drama and switch our attention elsewhere. And this is what happens, right?

Because we, then at home, we've got jobs to take care of. We've got kids to take care of. And this is part of the strategy. If it's not on the front page every day, like in Gaza, they can continue the war in Gaza. And now the focus is on something else. So they can distract us. So what will the pieces of this forever war look like? I think the last time you were on our show, I believe you said you believe that this is becoming Trump's Vietnam. And so what are the pieces of this look like in terms of five years, six years? Are we talking about permanent naval presence in the Strait of Hormuz, a permanent blockade? Will we actually see boots on the ground? It doesn't seem Trump wants to do that. But what bases in the region that are being built up, I guess, what is your prediction?

Right. So I think moving forward, the long -term American strategy is a three -pillar strategy. The first pillar will be to use ground forces in order to strangle Iran. And the way you do that is by controlling the Strait of Hormuz, right? So you don't control the Strait of Hormuz to allow for free maritime navigation as before. What you want to do is destroy Iran's capacity to export oil. And that might mean seizing Kargilin. But you also want to destroy Iran's capacity to exact tolls on any ships that want to bypass the Strait of Hormuz. And so you basically want to cut off all financing for Iran. And you do that by having limited ground operations near the Strait of Hormuz, primarily Kargilin and Qasim Island, possibly even the Iranian coastline. And you do that. And basically what you're doing is you're trying to besiege Iran and you're trying to minimize troop casualties. So that's the first pillar.

Second thing you do is that you set up forward operating bases in safe places in Iran, meaning ethnic enclaves, right? So it's possible you set up forward operating bases in the southeast of Iran by the Pakistani border where the Balochs are. This is an ethnic group in Iran. You also can set up a forward operating base in the northwest. You can set up a forward operating base in the northwest of Iran where the Kurds are. What you're trying to do basically is you're trying to stir up ethnic tensions in Iran and you're trying to create an ethnic civil war in the country. Okay, that's step two. And step three is you try to suffocate Tehran. So Tehran is a city of 10 million people. It relies on railway transportation for its food. So what you do is you attack the infrastructure of Tehran to basically starve out the population. You attack the reservoirs to deny them water.

You destroy power plants to deny them electricity. Okay. What you're trying to do in this process, you're trying to work slowly so you do not create backlash back at home, because these are essentially war crimes. Then what you're trying to do is slowly apply pressure on the Iranians so that the population gets gets, gets very angry and they're forced to reach a political settlement with the Americans.

That's terrifying. I mean, it's terrifying to think that this is how this plays out. But you can see at see it clearly. Do you see any similarities here in the pieces that you just laid out from the ground forces, the strangulation, the ethnic enclave piece of this, to what we did in Afghanistan or Iraq?

Yeah, I mean, this sort of solution, it's meant not to commit to regime change. It's really meant to destroy the country as a viable nation state. So I think the end goal is to break Iran into ethnic enclaves, the Bacchanalization of Iran, essentially, and have them fight over scarce resources, especially water. And so they need to create conditions for that. But this is obviously a war crime. This is obviously an act of genocide. And so they need to move slowly towards that. And it might take them five years in order to reach that goal.

Wow. And so can you talk a little bit about how this is going to play out and be spun to us as not really a war? These are just economic consequences of other more complicated things. You don't understand it. Run along. But in the meantime, we will have shortages, food shortages and things like that.

Right. So what will happen is that this war will be drawn out. Right. So the Americans will behave much more strategically, much more methodically, much more in a much more calculated manner in order to reduce troop casualties, because that would that's what would make people this war very popular at home. Right. If troops started to come back in coffins. So only 13 troops have died so far. But if the count reaches 100, then we can see massive protests against this war back at home. OK, so that's a first step, like to take a more slow, patient, strategic approach to this war. Second thing is to continue to distract American people with more conflicts, possibly with with Canada's Mark Carney. It's possible Donald Trump will encourage separation of Alberta. It's possible that Trump and Carney, as well as the United States, will get into a scrimmage at some point.

Cuba is definitely on the menu. So Trump will want to take over Cuba at some point. So you're distracting the population. The third piece, this is the most important, is that as the economy suffers and you point this out, but as a global economy suffers, as people are not able to book vacations to Europe anymore, as they're not able to do what they want, whatever they want, people will slowly get bored of this war and focus more on domestic issues like the economy.

I just I I want to we're going to take a break and talk more about the economy. But I guess since I didn't have a family during the Afghanistan war, I didn't during the Gulf War, too. I just wonder, like, how did we let this just drag on? How is this? I just don't remember. You know, like, how did my parents just run a family while this atrocity was happening? And so, yeah. Do you have a comment on that? How did we just let that go for so long? And now we seem so hyper focused on not letting that happen.

Right. So Afghanistan happened right after 9 -11 when people rally around the flag. So there was a lot of popular support for an American invasion of Afghanistan in order to topple the Taliban. That's point one. Point two is that you remember the Americans actually attacked the Taliban through proxies, through something called the Northern Northern Alliance, which was just a bunch of warlords and rebellion against the Taliban. So it was a very quick war and it was not very costly for the Americans. But what happened was that the Americans stayed for 20 years in order to try to try to rebuild the nation. So the war itself was actually fast and quick and decisive. But then Americans commit themselves to nation building, which took which took the longest time. And the nation building was just a pretext for blatant corruption. Right. Right. So that's a point. Two o 'clock, two to two and three.

Project습 number 42 and 0.3. What was that? There was not much of American commitment. It was in actual effort. And so so people felt that this was a legitimate process. I mean, I interviewed a gentleman who was there in Afghanistan and he was literally working with the CIA.

He was responsible for taking the giant pallets of money off of the incoming aircraft. and he was basically told not to ask questions but he would have to then on a constant basis be bringing these giant pallets of cash which were then being of course distributed out to these warlords and payoffs and everything else just a massive money laundering operation in afghanistan so we know if there's one thing they love to make money that's why the ukraine war continues on and to your point this could continue on as a forever war professor stay right there we want to take a quick break we want to come back and dive deeply into the economy i know your predictions about how we are heading towards a global recession i don't think these warnings are being heeded by individuals people just kind of going about their lives and

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global economy we keep hearing the horror stories about fertilizer disruptions famine food shortages everything else it could become as a result of the closure of the strait of hormuz and this global war christine lagarde head of the ecb uh you know she's not given to hyperbole i mean she's of course lar you know in control of largest banks and the you know european banking structure um remember she's famous for telling us that you know she wanted us to move away from cash of course in my mind this is all about control but here is christine lagarde talking specifically about food rationing

and what is coming listen third a third of the fertilizers is shipped through the strait of hormuz now that is also at risk and it matters particularly in the southern hemisphere where the planting and therefore the fertilizers is badly needed now i'm not saying that just out of interest for agriculture don't forget i was minister of agriculture in france for a month and a half but because it matters to me as a central banker now because if the price of food increases significantly it is not going to just be the price of food it is going to be inflation expectations because we know that people are particularly attentive to two things the price of food processed and unprocessed and the price of gas at the petrol station so here are three indirect consequences of what's happening in the energy world so if the disruption persists long enough the adjustment shifts from prices which we are

putting up with now to possibly rationing with very different economic consequences higher prices are primarily inflationary shortages hit output directly and are worse for growth overall there have been so far limited signs of supply chain disruption both globally and in the euro area but local tensions are visible jet fuel prices have roughly doubled since the outbreak of the conflict and rationing has been imposed at some individual airports in europe since early april and i'm not talking about what's happening in the rest of the world i'm just back from the imf and the world bank spring meetings like many of you and you might have bumped into colleagues from asia in particular some of the low -income countries are emerging with the impact of the inflationary crisis on the market economies that are taking a much more severe hit than us and are moving into rationing

yeah so asia moving into food rationing um and fuel rationing lufthansa yesterday announcing the cancellation of hundreds of flights because they don't have the fuel for it and then the fertilizer moving through the street of hormuz like are people taking this seriously and you hear just in her voice i mean as a central banker she's going to scare people but she's kind of you can hear it there that they're all the signals she's basically pointing out all of the signals we're back with professors young to talk about the global impact of this war in iran professor what do you make of christine lagarde's message there and do you see a much bigger problem emerging yeah i think she is uh

forewarning a major catastrophe approaching the global economy that's going to come very soon so she points out one third of the world's fertilizer. passes through the Strait of Hormuz. And most people don't appreciate this, but fertilizer is what feeds the world. So without fertilizer, the globe, the Earth, could sustain one or two billion people, two billion people, if you're optimistic. So basically, we're able to have eight billion people on this planet because of fertilizer. Now, if you take out fertilizer out of the equation, this means that a lot of people are going to starve. There's just no way around it. So this brings up a much bigger point, which is people don't appreciate the fragility of the global economy. We use something called a just -in -time supply chain system. So there's very little inventory. There's very little resilience. The system doesn't know how to cope with setbacks, with delays. It's designed to be as quick and as efficient as possible in order to maximize benefit for the consumer.

So this system was not designed to be resilient, it was designed to be efficient, and this is going to cause a lot of problems for the world. Another point that I will make is that these policymakers know that this catastrophe is coming. And the thing about policymakers is that they don't let a crisis ever go to waste. And policymakers are first and foremost concerned about how to create more control over people, how to create an A.I. surveillance state. And if you talk about rationing, well, what comes naturally with rationing is, basically, digital currency and digital I.D. Right? Because think of communism. Think of Marxism. Think of a command economy where, because there's so little food, because there's food scarcity, there's food scarcity, well, we have to ration this, so we have to basically give you coupons. And we do that digitally through digital currency.

And so think of R quietly after this. of uh more control think of uh more financial repression think of um possibly economic collapse

so you know i'm trying to extrapolate what this will be the lived experience for us because the wall street journal recently reported that the pentagon was approaching american companies like ford and general motors to shift factory capacity towards weapon making uh you know they can ask them nicely but they also can use the defense production act to require companies to prioritize and accept government contracts and secretary of war pete hexeth had said this is to put us on a wartime footing so that doesn't mean live your lives we're going to go to war you know it's all good it's you will live in a wartime footing and so what was the lived experience during world war ii for americans is rosie the riveter the woman goes to work and food shortages and food rations and it was not optional so there is precedence for it for this it's not hysterical to think that we are

being pushed towards this right yeah no i think

history might repeat itself so what led to world war ii was first of all 1929 stock market crash where you know billions of savings were wiped out we might see a similar situation where the stock market collapses and possibly there is a cyber attack a cyber false flag attack on the nation's financial um data centers so all that money you have in the bank might be wiped out and you can blame the iranians for that even though it may not be the iranians um this will lead to a depression in america where people become desperate for jobs where people become desperate for food the government can now step in and create a command economy just like just like what they did 1930s right roosevelt's new deal and um then the um economy switches to a wartime economy where you are making drugs and um you're looking for a because you're making money and you're making

money into the world and depending on what you're making into the world you're making money into the world

and then you buy the things you're making money into the world and it's pretty hard to keep up and if the money comes from the international trade center and all that we've seen uh is that we're becoming more and more paranoid of what the world is going to do and the but to understand that the boom is going to come through the door so there's a lot of debate in the the internet basically as an age verification. They tell us it's about safety, but it's all about control. This is the control grid that's coming right before our eyes. And we're just like walking blindly right into it right now in the United States. Right. So there are two major pieces to this AI control grid, right?

The first is you would need an enforcement mechanism and this would be ICE. Do you really need soldiers with machine guns in the streets to deport illegal immigrants? Obama was able to do so without soldiers. He did it just for cooperation with local law enforcement, right? So I think the ICE, it's meant to be almost like a gestapo, a part of a secret police in order to control the lives of people. Their budget is like, I think projected to be $90 billion. That's a lot of money to get rid of illegal immigrants. So I think ICE is one piece of the puzzle. The other piece of the puzzle is Operation Stargate, where the government has dedicated $500 billion to building data centers all around America. Listen, these data centers are not for having an AI girlfriend or for helping you cheat on your homework. They are part of the control grid, right?

So you look at companies like OpenAI, they don't make money selling chat services to people. But Son Altman seems to be very confident that he'll be very successful. So I think he knows something that we don't know.

It's deeply, deeply troubling. You talked about also, well, we mentioned it before the show, which is the oil refineries. So, I mean, what is going on here? And I don't know if you have the answer to it, but we're now seeing, I mean, dozens of oil refineries around the world, many of them in BRICS -aligned nations. You saw in India, one of the inaugurated, you know, President Modi of India was about to have the inauguration of this brand new oil refinery. And the day before, it goes up in flames. So all of the oil refining capacity is being taken offline. What is going on? Right. So I think there's a combination of war.

So a lot of refineries that are being destroyed are because of war, right? The Americans attacked the natural gas fields of Iran, and Iranians responded by attacking the natural gas fields of Qatar. So war is a factor. Another factor is just accidental. It's an accidental malfunction. So because of energy shortages, these refineries have to maximize output. And so it's possible they didn't neglect safety measures because they're at capacity. That's a second factor. The third factor is a sabotage, right? So if you look at the Australian G -Loan refinery fire, that is deeply suspicious. They say it was an accident, but people locally said that this was probably sabotage. So there are these three factors going on, right? War, accidents, and sabotage. One thing that I will say is that if you're trying to change your society, you really need to better control your people. And quite honestly, from the perspective of the elite, the peasants have become too arrogant.

The peasants have become too uppity. And so you need to make them much more anxious. You need to make them much more desperate. And so it's important to manufacture economic calamities in order to make them more obedient.

Well, that's what Colonel Towner Watkins says, and she's brilliant. And she talks about this as the strategy of tension. And these left -behind armies, these NATO leave -behind armies that have created this strategy of tension, you create this tension on purpose in order to agitate and control. It's all about control.

It's psychological warfare. They've been doing this for decades. So think of the color revolutions in the Middle East, right? So they have this very good playbook, very effective playbook of using propaganda, of using spies, of using saboteurs, provocateurs, in order to stir up discontent among the population and in order to better control the emotions of the population. So I think that we are moving towards a period of massive unrest.

Now, earlier off -camera, you talked about the NASA program. And this seems to be something that's really irking people online. I see meme after meme of people saying, wait, you expect us to support a war in Iran. We don't have free health care. We have record debt. We will have to pay more for fuel. But you can use up all this jet fuel and send science experiments into the ether. What the hell? And you're saying you think that is another part of the control mechanism.

Right. So if we just extend our logic, right, and just say, you know, we're going to have a war. Okay. During this war, in order to maintain the American empire, the population isn't going to go with this war. So they need to create an economic catastrophe to make the population more obedient. And you want to introduce an AI surveillance system. You want to have a control grid. Well, a possible strategy is to fake an alien invasion and make people so afraid that they're going to die. They basically obey the government. But, you know, from the perspective of the government, this doesn't really have to succeed, because honestly, the baby boomers will go with anything, right? But maybe it's just theater. So everyone knows it's a fake alien invasion, but that allows the government to actually impose the AI surveillance grid on everyone. And the boomers will go with this. No one else will go with it, but no one really cares, because they have eyes on the streets to enforce obedience.

Well, and President Trump recently, of course, announced the shift of Space Force to its new location with its massive new infrastructure and, of course, billions of dollars and a new budget. It has its own spy program inside Space Force. For years on this show, we've been calling out how this is just one big, massive boondoggle for the defense industry. And of course, yes, the fears—you're seeing it online now, this idea that we are about to face some sort of big disclosure, some sort of big alien invasion. You're hearing it from members of Congress, that disclosure is coming, and therefore, to scare all of us into some sort of control. And that, I think, this is just another big piece of the puzzle. Project Bluebeard.

Yeah, I want to raise two questions about the space program. So we know that after every major government expenditure, a huge government project, we have massive innovation, okay? Before World War II, when the government spent billions and billions of dollars on the Manhattan Project. And in the 1950s, we have this tremendous wave of innovation, right, including the transistor, including the internet, including semiconductors. So that's what happens when you have tremendous breakthroughs, technological breakthroughs. But the problem is this. 1969, America sent a man to the moon. What technological breakthroughs do we have from that? In fact, if you talk to NASA, they tell you, oh, sorry, we lost all that technology. We lost all that data. We lost all that footage. That's kind of weird. That's really weird. That's point one. Point two is that undergirding technological breakthroughs is our scientific theories, okay? So think of the Manhattan Project and how, you know, before the Manhattan Project.

There were all these tremendous breakthroughs in science, primarily Einstein's theory of relativity and quantum mechanics, which allows for the Manhattan Project. I'm completely confused as to what physical breakthrough or what theoretical breakthrough allowed for the space program. And why is it that after the space program was so successful, we don't have breakthroughs in our understanding of the universe? This is all really weird.

I guess, yeah. Don't you think we're all weird? We should know more by now.

Yeah. I mean, like, we're literally excited about getting back to the moon. I mean, we, you know, it's like, we've done this. We've done this, you know, 1960s. We've done this. Like, or did we? And now we're doing it all over again. And we're excited that we get some sort of 4K iPhone video that's been going viral by one of the astronauts. Like, that's like arguably the most exciting thing that we've seen from this is an astronaut's iPhone video through the window of a sunrise, or the Earth, the Earthrise or Earth's sunrise. It's very bizarre.

I want to, I'm going to out Clayton a little bit. He was telling me earlier that, you know, he's fascinated by the Optimus robot, the Tesla Optimus robot, and we'll see Tesla earnings this afternoon. And he was saying, it's not just to like walk your dog and do your dishes. What they want them to do is go to Mars and build the colonies, that they will be built by the Optimus robots. And he's fascinated by that. There's no shade in telling me, right?

No, I mean, just years ahead, years ahead of human beings going to Mars. They will have this like fleet of Optimus robots on, on Mars.

Yeah. What do you think of that?

You know, it's, it's entirely possible where they're looking for a new control mechanism, right? And they understand the power of narrative, how World War II was this great unifying, galvanizing event for the American population, how the space race was also a great unifying event for the American people as well. So maybe people are in poverty, maybe, maybe there's wars going on. Maybe if they, if they don't have the knowledge of these Optimus robots going to Mars to build a colony, maybe this will make us more appreciative of the government.

Okay. Yeah. I guess we'll, we'll just fall in line and just be happy with all of this control and people are, you know, just walking into this control grid.

Or imagine, I'm thinking like a science fiction writer now. You, you are in this control grid, you see these Optimus robots, you think they're actually building a colony where there is food and life. But, oh, you can only get here because of this. And then we all think that we've earned it, line up to get on a machine, and we're blasted into death. This is the novel, right?

It's a Hollywood movie, yeah.

You like it? Yeah.

Yeah, The Matrix. I don't like this dystopic future.

It's macabre, but that's where my mind goes.

Professor, any final thoughts on all of the things we talked about today? And, I mean, I just keep coming back to this economic depression that we're facing. And I don't think people are prepared for it.

No, I think, like, the greatest challenge is for people to, like, switch their mindsets. Because people are so complacent nowadays. You know, I don't think Americans appreciate how great their country is, how lucky their lives have been in that they've never experienced a war. And that they've never really experienced scarcity, poverty, deprivation. And, quite honestly, what's going to kill most people? Is this radical kind of dissonance when they move towards a world in which things feel hopeless. So, I think, you know, what's really important is for people to start to switch their mentalities from a focus on too much materialism to a much greater focus on spirituality, on community, on family. And if you do that, then I think you're much more likely to weather the storm that's coming.

You know, one more question I want to ask. Because a German politician recently said that they should... Raise the age of enlistment for reservists to 70. A 70 -year -old being enlisted in the army. I mean, if this shows no lack of respect for human life, I don't know what does. And so, I think that, again, this shows sort of an expansion of slave labor and war footing. What do you think of that?

Look, I think there's a depopulation agenda going on where the elite have known for decades that the population we have is unsustainable. This planet, its resources were really meant for only one or two billion people. Unfortunately, the elite don't want to share. They want to live the life of billionaires, and they want us to own nothing and be happy about it. So, they recognize that if they are to maintain their privilege, then they need to get rid of most of us. And so, you know, never let a good crisis go to waste. And so, there is clearly a depopulation agenda at work here behind the scenes.

I guess I'll finally ask. I want to ask you about this Palantir big headline that came out about two days ago that Palantir executives want to bring back the draft in the United States. They want to bring back the draft just as the Selective Service is now prepping for this automatic registration in the United States. So, you'll be automatically put in the Selective Service. What do you make of Palantir's push for a draft?

Look, if there's an AI surveillance state that's coming, then Palantir will be the heart and center of that. So, food rationing. They'll allow for, will justify a control grid. But also, the national draft, if you think about it, will also justify a control grid where you need to make sure that young men know their patriotic duty and they're willing to go and die in the Middle East.

Unbelievable. Professor Jiang, thank you so much for your deep analysis today. We really appreciate it. And I hope you're not correct. I hope you're not correct.

Look, I hope I'm wrong, okay? On the internet, people call me an idiot. I hope I'm an idiot, okay? But I also think it's important for us to consider all possibilities and to be emotionally and psychologically prepared for the worst -case scenario.

Right. You've been right so far. So, I hope you are an idiot. And I hope that this is wrong. And that I hope we do not enter a forever war with Iran.

Well, how many of us were idiots not seeing the pandemic coming and then weren't prepared for it? So, okay, you guys, there's precedence. Yeah.

Professor, great to see you. Thank you so much. And I really appreciate you staying up late with us there in China. Thank you so much.

Okay. Thanks, guys.

Thank you.

Bye -bye.