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In Jiang's reading, Nicias tried to deter the Athenians by demanding a massive expedition, but the warning backfired and made the Athenians embrace a shock-and-awe expedition.
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Sicily
He argues that the central problem in a distant expedition is resupply, a problem Athens had little experience solving because it had not fought that kind of foreign war.
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He argues that the central problem in a distant expedition is resupply, a problem Athens had little experience solving because it had not fought that kind of foreign war.
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"...know that you think this war is a good idea. But Sicily is a huge place. It has a navy. Therefore, we need a..."
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"...say, that's a great idea. Let's send a massive force against Sicily and Syracuse so the war can be won just like that. Okay?..."
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"...like this before, okay? So they sent this huge expedition against Sicily. And Syracuse, which was a naval power, were surprised, because they were..."
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"...that don't even not even a part of this war okay Sicily so remember um the Athenians it's a mafia state what they do..."
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"...the Mediterranean, you have a place called Carthage. Here is Italy, Sicily, okay? An island called Sicily. Sicily is important because it's basically the..."
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"...They are basically a war machine. They now want to control Sicily and the coast. Okay? And this brings them into conflict with the..."
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"...Greeks. Okay? So that's the Greeks. Eventually, the Romans went to Sicily. And this brings them into direct conflict with Carthage. And this starts..."
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"...place called Syracuse. Syracuse is a city on the island of Sicily. It's very prosperous. And the king of Syracuse invited Plato to come..."
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"...going to go take our ships and sail off west to Sicily or Africa. Who cares? Okay? But we're going to go away and..."
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"...at the different wars. For example, the 415 BCE invasion of Sicily by Athens. You look at 1941 Operation Barbarossa. You have basically hundreds..."
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"...suggestion is, to win the war against Sparta, let's go invade Sicily. And Nicias, his opponent, is like, why the hell would we want..."
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"...Athenian troops. And therefore, the Athenian army was wiped out in Sicily. And this caused the Athenians to ultimately lose the war against Sparta,..."
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