Jiang treats this free-will discussion as the defining debate that prepares for Dante and Virgil's eventual separation.
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Jiang says the poem prepares readers to weep at the eventual separation between Dante and Virgil by steadily deepening their mutual affection.
The same line of argument treats the church's corruption as the greatest sin because it separates people from God and therefore resists forgiveness.
Jiang explains Dante's confusion in the lower sphere as a question about why these souls are not simply with God but appear separated within a ranked heaven.
The Aeneid reverses the Odyssey because the gods no longer will the lovers' reunion; they will Aeneas and Creusa's separation for the sake of Rome.
Jiang names the first major difference between modern and pre-modern minds as separation from nature versus belonging to nature.
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"...debate is gonna mark, um, when Dante and Virgil have their separation. Okay. So let's figure out why Dante and Virgil, they must separate...."
"conflict between the two but there's also real deep affection between the two and it's very much real okay and and we know what's..."
"Throughout what we've read in the Divine Comedy, the main belief of Dante is that we should, as humans, we can connect to the..."
"their vows were not fulfilled okay so dante is um in the spears and he sees people and he's completely confused by this because..."
"Again, this is very different from the Odyssey, where the Odyssey is really about a journey of two people, Penelope and Odysseus, to find..."
"If Jupiter demands us to sacrifice ourselves, then we must do so, okay? And so, this reverses the Odyssey, right? Where the gods willed..."
"sound might betray their presence to some person or thing not of the forest they stood there quiet and still and it struck me..."
"mind is what we consider modern and their mind is what we consider pre -modern okay what's the first major difference between I okay..."
"that surprise him exactly okay so here's the first big difference why do we think that nature is dangerous why do they not think..."
"...unity, okay? Does that make sense, guys? Time and space create separation, but once you move out of time and space, it creates unity...."
"...figure out what causes this distance okay what causes this distance separation between reason and knowledge they didn't think they needed faith it's faith..."
"...to unify society is money, right? And money leads to the separation of selfishness, right? That's why you can't no longer be, change the..."
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