Virgil's Roman epic, presented here as Dante's main textual access point to Ulysses.
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Aeneid
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The beloved imperial text Jiang says Dante must lead readers away from through slow discovery.
The poem Virgil identifies as his own work, grounding why Dante treats him as the supreme precursor poet.
Virgil’s Roman epic, read by Jiang as Augustan propaganda against Homeric love.
His evidence for this is literary realism: the Virgil in the Divine Comedy exhibits contradictions, nuance, subtlety, quirks, and stable psychology that exceed extrapolation from the Aeneid alone.
The noisy close of the packet still indicates Jiang's layered account of authorship: the Aeneid carries the persona of Virgil, and the Comedy already distinguishes the pilgrim, historical Dante, and poet Dante.
Jiang approves the reading that meditating on the Aeneid’s mercy-failure can make a reader search for Christ as the answer to what the poem lacks.
Jiang argues the holy fire still leaks out strongly enough that receptive readers can be drawn to Christianity even through a compromised poem.
Jiang endorses the reading that Virgil regretted the merciless ending of the Aeneid and even wished he had burned the manuscript.
Jiang stresses that Rhipeus is basically Virgil’s own minor invention, which means Dante uses Virgil’s character against Virgil’s worldview.
Jiang argues that Dante did not have direct access to Homer and instead knew Ulysses through Virgil's Aeneid.
Jiang says Virgil stole from Homer, diluted and corrupted the Iliad and Odyssey, and then presented the result as real poetry just as a counterfeiter dilutes gold and passes it off as pure.
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"...he's summoned Virgil because to me, I can't, I've read the Aeneid and I don't think the Virgil in the Divine Comedy can be..."
"So he understands this guy's peculiarities. Right. Does that make sense? There's certain things, there's certain quirks that like, you cannot imagine it. You..."
"Yeah. I think Don has summoned Virgil here. It's very hard for me to explain how this could work otherwise. Okay. Because like, we're..."
"But I, because when you sat on stage, you were terrible and really accurate. Why did you say you didn't know that? How do..."
"okay anyone else yes the mercy of christ becomes so much more apparent that it's the true way and it's like the divine truth..."
"made you look for a preacher that would have changed your mind yeah that's that's great that's fantastic okay that's exactly what status is..."
"and how the exact details of how he converted okay so let's try to figure this out okay all right so remember the poets..."
"light will draw you to christianity doesn't make sense okay but the poet has committed evil and sin by trapping the holy fire and..."
"aeneas sees palace's sword belt and in the aeneid that's so um the aeneid portrays like aeneas he's really sad he's really upset he's..."
"just did yeah and virgil did say he didn't he wished he didn't write that because he wanted to burn the manuscript right so..."
"Exactly. So he's constantly excusing himself, right? He'd rather, again, burn in hell than just to admit he's wrong. Riffius is interesting because who..."
"Virgil writes, uniquely the most just of all the Trojans, the most faithful preserver of equity, but the gods decided otherwise."
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