Jiang insists that in Dante, unlike certain Shakespearean naturalisms, nature and God must be distinguished because nature gives the body while God gives the soul.
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He presents Lady Macbeth as someone who deliberately imagines herself outside nature, almost witch-like, in order to convert Macbeth's hesitant ambition into efficient action and the pursuit of power.
Bromwich leaves the discussion with two unresolved interpretive centers: whether foreknowledge from witches compromises responsibility, and why children matter to the play's contrast between nature and the supernatural.
Bromwich says Macbeth has often been called orthodox Christian in the beliefs it reflects because tearing the fabric of nature through crime is also an offense against God.
Jiang says alchemy is worse than ordinary social fraud because it tries to change the laws of God and warp nature itself rather than merely manipulating society.
Jiang says the moon landing is not alchemy, but he still treats it as Ulysses-like overreach against the laws of nature and the proper moral order.
A student contrasts psychedelics with literary priming by saying psychedelic experience almost guarantees a felt change, strips away ordinary social habits, and returns the user to a more animal or nature-proximate state.
The text turns next to usury by asking why moneylenders and bankers are punished and by linking usury to a scorn for nature and art.
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"No, no, that's not what I'm saying. Okay. In Dante. Nature and God are the same thing. Nature and God are not the same..."
"...herself up as the person willing to face um violation of nature violation of duty because of the great um gift that it will..."
"...as witch -like sees herself as in some way supernatural outside nature she can't live up to that aspiration but it's she who as..."
"...the cost of ambition it is not shakespeare's information about the nature of life um i think i'll stop there i haven't said anything...."
"...Macbeth and Lady Macbeth? The dynamic, to call it that, between nature, the nature that Lady Macbeth hopes to separate herself from, and the..."
"...say when you when you um you know when you rend nature when you um uh do something that tears the fabric of nature..."
"example love or immortality right but but all people who commit fraud do that right why are they the worst of all these fraudsters..."
"fabric fabric of the world yes you're trying to bend everything for your wants and desires yes"
"...society with fraud but now with alchemy you're trying to warp nature with fraud okay and that's even worse okay does that make sense..."
"alchemy yes that's right yes how about moon landing it's also considered as alchemy what do"
"...it's not alchemy but you're also going against the laws of nature right it's like ulysses falling off the the edge of the earth..."
"...or knew, and it basically makes you wear more close to nature, where you forget the conception of, like, technology, money, possession. And so..."
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