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The place Virgil claims virtuous non-Christians are trapped, a claim Jiang says Dante will later undermine.
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The place Virgil claims virtuous non-Christians are trapped, a claim Jiang says Dante will later undermine.
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A place in hell for virtuous non-Christians according to Virgil's account, which Jiang signals should be questioned.
Glossary
The outer circle of hell for virtuous pagans who lack baptism; Virgil's home in Jiang's Dante reading.
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Jiang says Virgil and Cato know each other from Roman history and limbo, making Virgil's politeness and fear meaningful.
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Jiang reads Virgil's mention of Marcia as a subtle bribe or small threat aimed at Cato.
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Cato's placement creates a paradox because he was not Christian, killed himself, and had been in limbo, but still reached purgatory while Marcia remained in limbo.
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Virgil's account that virtuous non-Christians are doomed in limbo is something Dante is suspicious of and that the poem will later show is untrue.
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Virgil's claim that he is merely unlucky in limbo is incorrect; Jiang says Virgil chooses to be there and has paths toward salvation that he refuses.
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Jiang says Virgil's account that virtuous non-Christians are doomed in limbo will later prove untrue.
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Jiang says Virgil's claim that he is merely unlucky in limbo is incorrect; Jiang says Virgil chooses to remain in hell.
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Virgil's stated rule is that virtuous pagans remain in limbo because they lack baptism, with Christ's descent into hell as the single historical exception.
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"...around the same time in Rome. Okay? And they were in limbo together. So they know each other really well. But Virgil is being..."
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"Eternal edicts are not broken for us. This man's alive and I'm not bound by Minos. But I am from the circle where the..."
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"...He's saying to Cato, listen, your wife, Marcia, she's still in limbo with me. And if you treat us well here, I'll go back..."
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"While within the other world, Marcia so pleased my eyes. He then replied, each kindness she required, I satisfied."
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"...world. So what he's saying is that before I was in limbo with you, Virgil, and my wife, Marcia. Okay? He's saying that. But..."
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"Okay? This is like a paradox. Okay, keep on going."
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"...hell. And the first place that they enter is something called limbo. And limbo is a place where people go. They're good people but..."
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"And Virgil says there was only one time. And that was when Jesus died and he came to hell. To save and redeem those..."
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"...had seen some estimable men among the souls suspended in that limbo."
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"So I want you to remember this passage because Virgil is saying, there's nothing wrong with me. Unfortunately, I was just unlucky. Okay? This..."
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"...hell. And the first place that they enter is something called limbo. And limbo is a place where people go. They're good people but..."
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"Or that's what Virgil tells Dante. Dante is suspicious and and Dante asks Virgil, was there ever a time when people in hell could..."
Relevant Lectures And Readings
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Dante is not offering a church-approved tour of the afterlife.
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A source-grounded reading of Dante as a dangerous poem: poetry enters memory like a virus, Virgil appears as guide and trap, and hell becomes the world people choose when obedience replaces love.
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The Divine Comedy does not defeat Virgil by denouncing him.
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