The post-republican order Jiang says will be born after Caesar's death.
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Roman Empire
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Jiang agrees that Julius Caesar fits limbo if the Roman Empire is part of God's will, then escalates the problem by asking where Augustus Caesar belongs if he founded the empire that made the Church possible.
Jiang says Jesus was born during Augustus and that Catholic teaching treats Augustus's empire as part of the worldly pathway that made Christianity possible.
Jiang calls the Aeneid the Bible of the Roman Empire because it explains Rome's origin, greatness, and direction as a civilizational script.
Jiang says the Beatitudes become especially moving when heard inside the Roman Empire, which he portrays as an evil order of extreme inequality where a few possess everything, most people are poor or enslaved, and rebellion is futile because imperial force is everywhere.
Jiang says that in this canto the eagle is the Roman Empire itself, Constantine is the ruler who made Christianity Rome's official religion, and the Aeneas-Lavinia allusion connects Dante's poem back to the Roman founding story.
Jiang identifies Tiberius as the third Caesar after Julius and Augustus and says this is the reign during which Jesus is acting as a prophet.
He points to historical empires such as the British and Roman empires as precedents for small ruling populations dominating much larger subject populations.
The Aeneid becomes, in Jiang's reading, the bible of the Roman Empire: a school text for Latin and an imperial inversion of Homer that damages Western creativity until Dante answers it.
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"...the great poet, and we will learn in paradise that the Roman Empire is what gives rise to a Catholic church, and is part..."
"Yeah, but, but it was during Augustus that Caesar, that Jesus was born, right? And what the Catholic church teaches you is that without..."
"...born. Okay? So the Aeneas, it's basically the Bible of the Roman Empire. It explains where Rome came from, why Rome is the greatest..."
"...000 years ago when jesus was alive why because the roman roman empire was really really evil the roman empire the pax romana marked..."
"from the from the beginning after constantine had turned the eagle counter to heaven's course the course it took behind the ancient one who..."
"...makes christianity the official religion of rome the eagle is the roman empire itself okay the eagle is the standard of the roman empire..."
"with him who bore it next brutus and cassius howl in hell and grief seized modena perugia you because of it sad cleopatra weeps..."
"the third caesar is tiberius caesar right the first is julius caesar augustus caesar and the third is tiberius caesar tiberius caesar is important..."
"...people go back to the british empire go back to the roman empire there were not that many people but they were able to..."
"...and inverting them okay so this becomes the bible of the Roman empire meaning that if you're a school boy you have to memorize..."
"so what we'll do is we will read the Iliad for the next two weeks and understand how it poisons and corrupts Homer and..."
"...not let him and so this became the bible of the roman empire it is a"
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