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A student and Jiang agree that Caesar's later deification under Augustus means Brutus and Cassius can be read as killers not only of a host but of a godlike figure in the Roman imagination.
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Augustus
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A transcript-matched topic anchored by excerpts such as "Is it not even worse? Is it because the Romans then later said that Julius Caesar is God, so it's betrayal of God maybe..."
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A student argues Julius Caesar's softer treatment may reflect Virgil's role as Dante's guide and the Roman imperial genealogy attached to Augustus and the Aeneid.
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Jiang agrees that Julius Caesar fits limbo if the Roman Empire is part of God's will, then escalates the problem by asking where Augustus Caesar belongs if he founded the empire that made the Church possible.
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Jiang treats Augustus Caesar's whereabouts as a serious interpretive puzzle because Augustus is one of the most important figures in Roman and Christian history yet cannot be physically located inside the poem's afterlife.
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Jiang insists that being mentioned by Virgil is not the same as being physically situated in limbo, purgatory, paradise, or hell.
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Jiang says Augustus survives in the poem only as remembered speech through Virgil, while Alexander and Julius Caesar receive actual infernal placement.
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Jiang says the Divine Comedy is meant to be subversive and to undermine traditional assumptions, which is why Augustus's absence should be read as meaningful rather than accidental.
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A student infers that Dante may be conflicted about Augustus because he cannot decide where to place him.
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"Is it not even worse? Is it because the Romans then later said that Julius Caesar is God, so it's betrayal of God maybe..."
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"Exactly. That's right. After Augustus Caesar comes to power, he elevates Julius Caesar to divinity, okay? So this is why they're in hell. Because..."
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"...cannot, like, see Caesar in heaven, because Virgil was appointed by Augustus, the adopted son of Julius Caesar, to ride the Inuit, right? So,..."
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"...put Julius Caesar in limbo. But this raises another question. Where's Augustus Caesar? Okay. We'll, we'll, we'll ask ChachiBT. Let's, let's ask, let's ask..."
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"Where, where, but where is Augustus Caesar located in the Divine Comedy? Does he appear? Augustus Caesar is one of the most important historical..."
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"...is. If we're looking for Divine Comedy, where can we find Augustus Caesar?"
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"...circle of violence. We know he is there, but where is Augustus Caesar physically in Divine Comedy? He's nowhere, guys. He does not exist..."
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"...So do you think, how do you think Donny feels about Augustus Caesar? Well, just, can, can you explain?"
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"Conflicted. The only reason I can think of that he's not there, other than when Virgil mentions him, is Dante cannot decide where to..."
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"No, it was not Augustus, it was Tiberius. Oh, was it not Tiberius?"
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"Yeah, but, but it was during Augustus that Caesar, that Jesus was born, right? And what the Catholic church teaches you is that without..."
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Relevant Lectures And Readings
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Jiang turns late Inferno and early Purgatorio into a struggle over imagination itself.
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Dante's Hell is not just a ladder of sins in this lecture.
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The seminar begins with line-by-line questions and expands into a larger claim: Dante matters because poetry trains imagination, vows turn hope into action, and faith, hope, and love stop meaning obedience and start meaning...
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Rome cannot burn Homer, because Homer already lives in memory.
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The host begins by asking how Jiang became a public analyst and ends by asking how history itself gets rewritten.
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A source-grounded reading of Jiang's Roman lecture: Rome begins as a poor borderland war machine, invents a liberty of obedience, uses Greek historians and Augustan poets to launder violence, and reaches its deepest secret...
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Byzantium survives for a thousand years because it solves Rome's political problem.
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A source-grounded reading of Augustine as empire's theologian: the Church escapes history, curiosity becomes sin, love becomes disease, passivity becomes goodness, and Arabia appears as the next place where fugitives from authority will prepare...
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