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Jiang links the scene to Plato's cave: if souls still worship shadows as real, then even in Purgatory they remain mentally stuck in hell's mode of illusion.
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Plato
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Students initially interpret shadow as a reduced imitation of reality: something derivative, two-dimensional, and not the thing itself.
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The final student answer in the packet reconnects the image to Plato's cave by calling shadow a projection that offers only illusory knowledge and perhaps marks separation from God.
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A student challenge that this sounds Platonic becomes the transition to the next packet's explicit contrast between Plato and Jiang's pro-art view.
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Jiang characterizes Plato as wanting direct access to mathematical reality without the distraction of beautiful appearances, in contrast to the lecture's claim that beauty itself can be a road to truth.
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Jiang says the distance between Aristotle and paradise is not lack of intelligence but lack of faith.
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Jiang uses Plato's cave to say the visible world is false compared with the totality outside the cave, and he concludes that love is what propels Dante into that light.
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Greek civilization's major thinkers, including Plato, Thucydides, and Aeschylus, are derivative of Homer because they operate within Homer's universe while applying it differently.
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"...a reference to you worship shadows what's this a reference to Plato right how do you go to the cave all reality is a..."
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"...are in hell right how do you go to the cave Plato so let's expand this okay they're in purgatory which is the light..."
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"to imitate something real right right but it's not yeah uh it's two -dimensional as well it's"
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"two -dimensional yes it means that in the platonic idea that a form has been instantiated so that when light shines on it beings..."
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"in allegory of the cave there are people who sit at the bottom of the cave and they're in chains and they're looking at..."
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"Is that not a very platonic view? Like Plato really thought about mathematics and its connection to God. Yes. But he still, but what..."
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"...a really good question. Okay? So it is true that for Plato mathematics is the mind of God. It's also true that if Plato..."
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"Because it's just a falsity. It's like just an illusion. It's a shadow. It's being praised as form"
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"Right. It's a shadow. And so for Plato, what to really access the mind of God is you have to avoid the beauty and..."
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"...content those who desire eternally lamets i speak of aristotle and plato and many others what does"
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"...love okay you can't prove it you can't reason it out plato and aristotle their problem was that they wanted to reason out you..."
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"chained to a floor in a cave and they can only see what's in front of them which is a wall an empty wall..."
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Jiang turns late Inferno and early Purgatorio into a struggle over imagination itself.
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