The figure Jiang says emerges once centralized censorship collapses, setting up the next Iliad lecture.
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Homer
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The poet who created the Iliad and Odyssey and, in Jiang's model, introduced a new way for Greeks to imagine the world.
Jiang says Dante never read Homer directly, so his Ulysses comes through later authors rather than firsthand knowledge of the Iliad or Odyssey.
Jiang argues that Dante did not have direct access to Homer and instead knew Ulysses through Virgil's Aeneid.
Jiang provocatively says Dante and Homer converge so strongly on Ulysses that Dante becomes a kind of 'second coming of Homer.'
Jiang says Virgil stole from Homer, diluted and corrupted the Iliad and Odyssey, and then presented the result as real poetry just as a counterfeiter dilutes gold and passes it off as pure.
Jiang says the number 24 matters not only biblically but because Homer and Virgil's great epics are organized into 24 books, making 24 a classical sacred number.
Jiang says premodern societies widely assumed a spirit-filled world, whether in Homeric Greece, India, or animist and shamanic traditions.
He says beauty can take the form of Great Books such as Homer and Dante or any lived experience that permanently changes a person.
Jiang presents Homer, Virgil, and Dante as the three great poets whose works successively found Greek civilization, Roman and Catholic order, and then modernity after the Dark Ages.
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"Okay. So, Dante never read Homer. So he never read the Iliad and the Odyssey. And so his conception of, Ulysses, comes from other..."
"...at this time in history dante does not have access to homer uh he knows ulysses through the iniat uh because in the iniat..."
"...shoving together um point three is that if you actually read homer's odyssey it's a very different take on uh odysseus um i've taught..."
"dante is the second coming of homer so it's really interesting that that way"
"Well, he's though poetry, maybe from who Virgil and Homer."
"Yeah. So Virgil stole from Homer, right? The Iliad stole from the Iliad and the Odyssey, and it corrupted the Iliad in the Odyssey,..."
"...classic epic poems of the world at this time, which are Homer, the Iliad, the Odyssey, and Virgil's Iliad. These are all written in..."
"Okay. This is what I believe. We go back to Homer and the Iliad and the Odyssey. During that period in human history, it..."
"...a new reality. And so beauty would include the great books, Homer, Dante. It could include an experience that you have that forever changes..."
"...human history, there have been three great poets. The first is Homer Homer the second is Virgil the third is Dante Dante Homer gave..."
"...the question then is How does this happen? How is that Homer would create Greek civilization then Virgil Would then Erode civilization only be..."
"...like, you know, all you have to do is just read Homer, the Iliad and the Odyssey. And, you know, like you read it,..."
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