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Jiang links the scene to Plato's cave: if souls still worship shadows as real, then even in Purgatory they remain mentally stuck in hell's mode of illusion.
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Cave
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One student's gloss, which Jiang accepts as useful, is that Dante is still mentally trapped in a cave-like world of shadows and appearances.
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Jiang uses Plato's cave to say the visible world is false compared with the totality outside the cave, and he concludes that love is what propels Dante into that light.
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A student then proposes a depth-based explanation, comparing the moon’s dark areas to the darkness of a cave that grows deeper farther in.
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Jiang says the cave metaphor makes the universe look like a simulation rather than reality.
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Plato's cave is presented as the best metaphor for the human condition, explaining who humans are, where they came from, and where they are going.
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The ordinary world mistaken for reality is a corpse or dead zombie world, while the world outside the cave is beautiful, infinite, diverse, and alive.
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Plato's cave becomes Jiang's metaphor for Asha: liberation is incomplete until the freed person returns to help others escape.
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"...a reference to Plato right how do you go to the cave all reality is a shadow if you worship shadows"
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"you are in hell right how do you go to the cave Plato so let's expand this okay they're in purgatory which is the..."
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"Because he's, he's also still in the cave mentally."
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"Right. So, so why is he having to see the shadow? What's going to happen now?"
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"chained to a floor in a cave and they can only see what's in front of them which is a wall an empty wall..."
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"...so the more far away, the darker. Like, same as a cave would be."
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"...a universe and then it mirrors the entire universe. OK, a cave is basically just a simulation. Is that fair to say? A cave..."
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"allegory of the cave okay we talked about this okay but the idea is that um yeah in the algorithm cave everyone is sitting..."
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"...metaphor that we have is something called Plato's Allegory of the Cave. Plato's Cave. And this helps us understand who we are, where we..."
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"Okay? So this is a metaphor, an allegory that helps us understand what it means to be human and the human condition. Okay. So..."
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"Thank you. All right. All right. It, it, it all makes sense, okay? All right. All right. So, you go out into the world...."
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"...understand Aster better. Okay? He calls it the Allegory of the Cave. So imagine this. Imagine that we are in a cave. Okay? We're..."
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