The student formulation Jiang endorses is that the dream says Dante is Virgil, which makes the siren scene a warning about identification with the guide.
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Jiang accepts the reading that Dante's bond with Virgil has gone too far and treats the dream as a clarion call about dangerous overidentification with the father-guide.
The first mechanisms Jiang accepts are participatory and narrative: viewers enter the painting, imagine themselves inside it, and try to fill in the story of the depicted figures.
One student says Dante feels present not as a spirit inhabiting him but as an interpretive mirror for his own sense of exile from mainstream social and work life.
Jiang defines forgiveness as an act of imagination in which you picture yourself as the other person and recognize that you might have acted similarly under those conditions.
The continuing ability of readers to identify with Odysseus, understand Achilles, and predict Achilles' behavior is offered as evidence that the Iliad is eternal and immortal.
Catharsis creates a reciprocal identification in which the tragic character lives in the spectator and the spectator lives in the character.
A reader's ability to imagine Achilles as themselves is treated as evidence that Homer drew on archetypes existing within infinite and eternal consciousness.
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"Yeah. And why is this a problem? Um, what does this tell, tell Dante?"
"It's a clarion call. It's a clarion call that he's gone too far in his bond with Virgil."
"So it's playing to that idea. It doesn't make sense, guys. Okay. So, so that goes. That conversation, that, that dialogue between Dante and..."
"Well, yeah, I used to try to keep looking down at that kind of painting and I don't know. I just feel so strange...."
"Okay, what else? Well, first I would try to figure out who the people are in the painting first, like so their background. Yeah,..."
"Does that make sense? There's a story inside the painting you're trying to fill it in. You're trying to figure out who they are,..."
"Yeah, yeah, definitely. Because I think... I don't know why you come here to this classroom, but I do because I think I've just..."
"were exactly okay does that make sense to you okay when you forgive someone it's an act of imagination right because you're imagining that..."
"alive, so powerful, so connected to the universe itself, to the monad, that when you observed it, you created into yourself, a portal into..."
"that oh it's hubris that leads to tragedy and therefore it will make you a much more humble person okay this is what we..."
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