A student suggests the only coherent answer is that the number-two figure naturally tries to become number one, making disobedience part of Lucifer's role.
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Disobedience
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Jiang summarizes Dante's triad as faith being an act of imagination, hope being arrogance that dares to change the world, and love being action that can verge on disobedience in the face of injustice.
A student gives the straightforward catechetical answer that the wrongdoing was disobedience: God said not to eat the fruit, and humanity ate it anyway.
Humans cannot regain dignity by themselves because disobedience created a void and evil compounds when guilt cannot be forgiven.
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"...try to be number one. Yeah, his nature has to be disobedience, okay?"
"...universe and then love is one of action right it's almost disobedience where if you see justice anywhere you recognize for your faith for..."
"Because we... Well, the problem that God has with it is that we disobeyed him. He told us, don't eat the fruit, and we..."
"And man cannot regain his dignity unless, where things left emptiness, man fills a void with just a man's pleasure."
"Okay, so the problem is this. We do all this evil, and now we can't forgive ourselves, so we're stuck where we are, okay?..."
"For when your nature sings so totally within its seat, then from these dignities, just as from paradise, that nature parted."
"Okay, so we left the Garden of Eden not because we broke the law. We left the Garden of Eden because we cannot forgive..."
"...or limbo or where if like yes then that's called civil disobedience right"
"...himself into the river then so there's another act of civil disobedience we still celebrate a lot with saints heroes whoever we call them..."
"...know that Eve was responsible for the original sin, which was disobedience, which was pride, which was eating the fruit, okay? What did Mary..."
"...important is that because of the original sin, because of our disobedience from God, humans are inherently evil. If you're inherently evil, you should..."
"...primal nature of man. So instead of talking about obedience versus disobedience, maybe we can talk about civilization vs. primal nature of man. I'm..."
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