Joyce's 1922 modernist work, treated as elitist, musical, allusive, and self-referential.
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Ulysses
A transcript-matched topic anchored by excerpts such as "...read the Iliad and the Odyssey. And so his conception of, Ulysses, comes from other writers. And, Ulysses, he's, he's imprisoned in a flame...."
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Jiang says Dante never read Homer directly, so his Ulysses comes through later authors rather than firsthand knowledge of the Iliad or Odyssey.
Ulysses' last voyage is driven by a desire for experience, knowledge, and the unpeopled world that overrides obligations to son, father, and wife.
Jiang accepts the idea that trying to bypass purgatory can paradoxically land one in hell.
Jiang rejects the simpler explanation that Ulysses is just trying to be God; he wants a more precise account of what is wrong with the voyage.
Jiang says Ulysses fails because he abandons the familial loves that should anchor exploration, leaving ambition as a wandering flame with no body to hold it.
Jiang answers that Ulysses is worse than theft because he harms not strangers but his own family and roots, abandoning the people to whom he owes role and care.
Jiang says the moon landing is not alchemy, but he still treats it as Ulysses-like overreach against the laws of nature and the proper moral order.
Jiang says Dante punishes Ulysses primarily for counseling the Greeks to use the Trojan horse, not for leaving his family or leading his final voyage.
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"...read the Iliad and the Odyssey. And so his conception of, Ulysses, comes from other writers. And, Ulysses, he's, he's imprisoned in a flame...."
"to back and forth as if it were a tongue that tried to speak and flung toward us a voice that answered. When I..."
"set up his boundary stones that men might heed and never reach beyond, upon my right I had gone past Seville and on the..."
"what is what did he do wrong yes first he could be just like wanting to explore more without actually understanding what he's seeing..."
"interesting exactly yes you try to run away from purgatory and you end up in hell yeah that's very interesting yes anyone else no..."
"i'm guessing like if he's trying to know like all of the knowledge in the world he's trying to be like god kind of"
"um okay not really because um he's just exploring right okay we will meet someone who wants to be god later on but like..."
"um earlier in in verse 94 neither my fondness for my son or pity for my old father nor the love i owed penelope..."
"...why am i exploring like where am i going and um ulysses didn't know so he just fell off the face of the earth..."
"flame back the flame just wanders about okay so again what don is saying this is like really important is that we as individuals..."
"...are hurting those you're hurting you're hurting strangers right but what ulysses is doing you're hurting your own family right"
"you're betraying your own kind and your own roots okay right does that make sense"
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