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The Mandelbrot question introduces a tension between mathematical transcendence and humanly embodied beauty that the next packet will pursue.
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Transcendence
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diagnosis
Jiang implies that an experience which evacuates individuality too completely can become problematic even if it feels transcendental, whereas human art offers company and emotional reciprocity.
prediction
Jiang predicts that readers who stay with the Divine Comedy over time will begin to feel a similar ascent, as though lifting themselves toward heaven and participating in transcendence.
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Jiang accepts aesthetic transcendence in a museum as another form of happiness and compresses it under the category of beauty.
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Aurelia says Paradiso feels much more transcendent and beautiful to read aloud than Inferno.
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Jiang speculates that reading or reciting the Divine Comedy in Italian can move some people into a transcendent, even psychedelic-like state.
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Jiang says tests force people to abandon imagination, whereas intuitive and imaginative reading of the Divine Comedy is the path to true understanding and transcendence.
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Jiang describes ayahuasca as one of the most powerful psychedelics, safe when correctly prepared, and productive of a transcendental experience.
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"Yes? I have a question just on about what you personally feel. So there's a fractal called the Mandelbrot set. Okay. Which maybe it'd..."
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"What do you mean by that? When I want to feel like a human being, the Mona Lisa and things, they really do it..."
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"And if you do it for a long, long time, that might be problematic. Yeah, I think definitely"
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"10 years Mona Lisa is better. She's a bit of company."
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"I feel like I can't go outside, because if I go outside, a scooter might bump into me, and I'll get angry and all..."
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"...and you feel as though you're ascending upwards. It's almost like transcendence, okay? Transcendent. You're being transcendent when you read Divine Comedy. Yeah."
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"Like. Sometime. In. An. Museum. I. Can. Experience. Kind. Of. Transcendental. And. Mysterious. Aesthetic. Experience. Yeah."
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"Beauty. Right. When. Consider. Something. Beautiful. You. Are. Very. Happy. Okay. So. Yeah. We. On. Going. Okay. But. You. Get. That. Sense. Of. What...."
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"It's, like, way more, I feel like it's way more transcendent and beautiful."
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"it's beautiful and truthful it will um be saved okay and so what saves it is the poetry the beauty of the words right..."
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"anything terrible by making it by testing it right like you just add test anything it's gonna be terrible because you're not but because..."
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"okay ayahuasca i'm telling you no one knows how they came up with this okay it is the most one of the most powerful..."
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Jiang turns late Inferno and early Purgatorio into a struggle over imagination itself.
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