Jiang rejects the idea that Dante merely creates Virgil through close reading; he argues Dante summons Virgil as a real, independent person.
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Summoning
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Jiang uses that experience to support the claim that Dante summoned Virgil because truly independent characters are revealed rather than fabricated.
Jiang answers the fictional-character objection by saying fiction does not invent unreal beings but summons real persons from an infinite universe, a view the class links to archetypes.
Jiang says Virgil feels less like a literary fabrication than a summoned presence because Dante's portrayal captures such specific, excessive human realism.
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"...what's happening. I don't think he's creating Virgil. I think he's summoning Virgil. There's a difference. You know, you guys understand there's, there's, there's,..."
"Yeah. I think Don has summoned Virgil here. It's very hard for me to explain how this could work otherwise. Okay. Because like, we're..."
"to spend my own my life and like i can't explain the process and that's why i think that what's happened here is that..."
"this uh historical figures into your mind um it's like a seance right uh but what it but can you like summon this like..."
"...so so when you're writing fiction all you're doing is you're summoning someone from here yes well so just to answer that through"
"through this lens like the fictional characters uh are basically real characters like they're not really that's right like we're all sort of part..."
"he's saying is this okay the guy spent 500 years in the same crap over and over to make himself worthy of god and..."
"...really, really afraid because they didn't want anybody to know about summoning angels and demons and stuff."
"...this is absurd yes i guess the other thing other than summoning virgil that he could have done in real life if dante met..."
"...can Google this, okay? Ronan Farrow, Sam Altman, AI data centers summoning demons. So... So, yeah. And so I think that what the elite..."
"...these pictures in caves. Because these caves, it's almost like you're summoning the spirit, all these animals, to return, right? You've killed these animals...."
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