Glossary
The class's gloss for why fictional characters can still be real within a shared field of persons and patterns.
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archetypes
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Glossary
Jung-associated personality patterns that Jiang treats as real locations or imprints in universal consciousness, allowing similar personalities to behave alike and allowing Homer to create recognizable characters.
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Jiang answers the fictional-character objection by saying fiction does not invent unreal beings but summons real persons from an infinite universe, a view the class links to archetypes.
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The student counters that Virgil and Dante may still be only European representatives among many possible archetypal poetic conflicts, even if Dante can inspire readers outside Europe.
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Archetypes are shared personality patterns or imprints in the universe, associated by Jiang with Carl Jung, that make similar kinds of people behave alike.
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Homer's achievement is explained by his mind opening to universal consciousness so that he can access all archetypes at a greater level than ordinary empathy.
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The Iliad's ability to speak directly across 2,500 years from the ancient Aegean to Chinese students in the twenty-first century is presented as evidence for spaceless, timeless universal consciousness and archetypes.
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A reader's ability to imagine Achilles as themselves is treated as evidence that Homer drew on archetypes existing within infinite and eternal consciousness.
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Homer's characters require explanation because Achilles, Odysseus, and Agamemnon feel so real that readers can hear them speak internally and socially.
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"this uh historical figures into your mind um it's like a seance right uh but what it but can you like summon this like..."
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"this is an infinite universe right so there's infinite people so so when you're writing fiction all you're doing is you're summoning someone from..."
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"...like we're all sort of part of the same collection of archetypes"
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"...out there, and you're basically saying that these two are the archetypes. These two are the big bads. These two are the big bads..."
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"...have the same imprint in the universe. And we call this archetypes. Okay? Archetypes. This is from Carl Jung, who is a... Swiss... Psychologist...."
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"...Okay? If you're clever, you have a certain look. Okay? So archetypes. Okay? And so what's happening is that what Homer is doing is..."
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"...is conscious and it is infinite and eternal, and there are archetypes that exist within this universe. That Homer is able to draw on,..."
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"Because if this is not true, then you have to answer the question, how was Homer able to do this? Right? How was he..."
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