A historical empire reference that Jiang later reads as a code for the current great empire, likely America.
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Rome
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Ulysses and Diomedes are punished together because their cunning, especially the Trojan horse, used deception to destroy Troy and redirect history toward Rome.
Jiang analogizes Virgil's betrayal to a hypothetical Jesus siding with Rome for personal gain instead of fulfilling his mission.
Jiang's Aeneid summary says Aeneas loses Troy, is redirected by divine command toward Rome, is torn away from Dido and Carthage, and descends to the underworld for an explanation of the mission.
Jiang says the Aeneid turns prophecy into the full history of Rome: expansion, Mediterranean conquest, Caesar, Augustus, and the Pax Romana as a supposed end of history.
He says Troy's destruction and Aeneas's suffering are retroactively justified by the imperial destination of Rome, which lets Aeneas recommit to his mission.
Jiang says Rome's conquest of the Mediterranean is presented in this framework as God's will, with Roman expansion from an obscure Italian city to imperial power treated as intentional providence.
Jiang says Augustine's City of God responds to Rome's fall by distinguishing Rome as temporal power from Jerusalem as spiritual power, with the church positioned beyond ordinary political history.
Jiang says the canto's Roman-history sweep is meant to show that Rome's rise, Julius Caesar's conquests, and the birth of empire all unfold under divine ordination.
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"...the horse's fraud that caused a breach, the gait that let Rome's noble seed escape. There they regret the guile that makes the dead..."
"...Greeks to destroy the Trojans, forcing the Trojans to go to Rome, to found the Roman Empire. Okay. All right. Let's, let's keep on..."
"to be weaponized okay it's meant to uh like enlighten the world it's not meant to be directed as a weapon of empire all..."
"yeah and that's exactly what the jews hated jesus for because they really wanted a real messiah who was a militant leader just like..."
"...be destined to found the greatest empire in the world called Rome, okay? Rome will be the new Troy. Troy must be destroyed in..."
"...to Italy where they're supposed to found the new empire of Rome. They get shipwrecked and they end up in Carthage. And in Carthage,..."
"...Incius, what happens is that the prophecy becomes the history of Rome. And Aeneas is told that when you go to Rome, your son..."
"Troy was destroyed for a reason. To found Rome. Aeneas had to go on this long, painful journey in order to build the foundation..."
"...history is the Catholic Church. This Catholic Church is, of course, Rome. Rome. It is God's intention, it's God's will that Rome conquer the..."
"taught that rome is heaven on earth it's where the catholic church is so why would god not protect rome and so at this..."
"...is that it is all ordained by god the rise of rome was so quick that it had to be divine then with rome..."
"the jews betrayal of jesus keep on going and when the lombard tooth bit holy church then charlemagne under the eagle's wings through victories..."
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