Term or model used in this packet's account of Paul, Christianity, Roman power, or church doctrine.
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obedience
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The truly good life in Dante, as Jiang presents it, is one of faith, hope, and love, and this directly counters church teachings that reduce those virtues to compliance, humility, and obedience.
Jiang contrasts Dante's action-based and merciful Purgatory with a church system that incentivizes obedience and restricts Heaven to a narrow elite.
Jiang explicitly says his morning claim was wrong and replaces it with the view that angels have perfect free will, meaning perfect obedience to God.
Jiang says reading the Aeneid is effectively entering Virgil's mind, a blueprint for a merciless world of obedience, conquest, and lovelessness that Divine Comedy must answer.
Jiang contrasts Paul with Dante by saying Paul treats faith as humility and obedience toward realities beyond imagination, whereas Dante treats faith as an act of imagination that proactively helps bring reality into being.
Jiang says the doctrine of the Trinity is politically useful because mystery trains obedience to authority.
When asked about obedience, Jiang says Dante does not abolish God but rejects passivity: people must act as participants in the universe, use imagination, love others, and promote justice.
Jiang glosses this to mean angels have no recollection, no memory, no imagination, and only pure devotion and obedience to God.
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"...you will ascend to heaven and love is really one of obedience"
"to obey the church to to be a sheep and let the church be the shepherd okay so again this framework um um subverts..."
"And it's also action -based rather than having to pay money or... Exactly, okay?"
"...so it incentivizes action, right? Whereas this system, it's really about obedience, right? It incentivizes obedience. Obey what the church says and you'll be..."
"...but they have perfect free will which means they have perfect obedience to god like once you reach perfection free will is perfect obedience..."
"...that is hell no forgiveness no mercy no love just pure obedience that's what hell is okay so the inyad is the expression of..."
"And, um, Dante will first respond with Paul's formulation, which is that faith is evidence of things unseen, meaning that only faith can prove..."
"...idea of the holy trinity is useful in that it creates obedience to authority because because of mystery right so the process was not..."
"...is trying to say he's not trying to get rid of obedience entirely he's he's not trying to push self -determination he's saying okay..."
"saying okay what i'm trying to point out is what the priorities are right for paul the priority the priority is to accept the..."
"...sense to you guys? No imagination, no memory, just pure devotion, obedience to God. Okay, keep on going."
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