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Jiang directly answers the student that Romans killed Jesus, while the Bible adds the disputed claim that Jews conspired to make Rome kill him.
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Romans
Jiang distinguishes Greek, Roman, and Viking selfhood: Greek excellence means standing out in politics, Roman piety means loyalty to tradition and conquest, and Viking excellence means adding to the communal story through courage and adventure.
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model
Jiang distinguishes Greek, Roman, and Viking selfhood: Greek excellence means standing out in politics, Roman piety means loyalty to tradition and conquest, and Viking excellence means adding to the communal story through courage and adventure.
diagnosis
Jiang closes this packet by saying Western civilization, including Greeks and Romans, comes from the Yamnaya-created world; before Yamnaya humanity was egalitarian, peaceful, and artistic, and after Yamnaya there is patriarchy, war, and money.
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Jiang says the Greeks did not strongly influence the British because Rome mediated the tradition, so the modern British and American world is Roman rather than Greek.
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"...Also, remember, we discussed this in the last class, but the Romans were just brutal people. They killed people for no particular reason. So,..."
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"...the real group that killed Jesus is the Jews or the Romans?"
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"So, yeah. I'm saying that it's the Romans who killed Jesus, and we all agree it was the Romans who killed Jesus. What the..."
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"Now, but within this tradition, within this understanding, there are different ways you can conceptualize the idea of the community and the individual. Okay?..."
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"That is the Greek understanding. Then you have the Romans. The Romans define community as tradition and history and place. As long as you..."
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"For them, community and the individual are very different. The community is are told over and over by the people inside the community. And..."
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"...okay? Because when you think of Western civilization, the Greeks, the Romans, well, they all come from this world, okay? So basically what the..."
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"...not that much because remember, like, after the Greeks came the Romans, the Romans were like this. And there was a Roman who influenced..."
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"...in Russia believe that they are the true successors to the Roman Empire. And previously, there were two Roms. It was the First Rome,..."
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"...the Third Rome is that Russia is the heir to the Roman Empire. Okay? The First Rome is Rome, Second Rome is Constantinople, and..."
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"...back and you had this you know in um in the roman empire you had like a whole succession of of of a few..."
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"...ostracized or killed along with thousands of their supporters and so roman empire was set on a on a declining path where basically it..."
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