Jiang's explanation for why punishment can be an expression of love: degradation becomes the precondition for recovery.
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rock bottom
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A transcript-matched topic anchored by excerpts such as "right because a third of humanity will die what what's going on here this is punishment we just said that if you love someone..."
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Jiang's analogy is that a loved one addicted to drugs may need forceful intervention, even jail or abandonment, because permissive help can preserve the destructive pattern.
Jiang says the logic of divine retribution is that society may need to hit rock bottom before it can recognize and repair its corruption.
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"right because a third of humanity will die what what's going on here this is punishment we just said that if you love someone..."
"love our child what would we do yes uh send him to the rehab then into the rehabilitation okay"
"right uh any other suggestions the person has kick him out call the police right because he or she has stolen all money criminal..."
"up the the good samaritan issue in the bible where like the person who like helps them is actually enabling them and the person..."
"...you have to do is basically let him or her hit rock bottom before he or she can lift her himself up okay does..."
"...a lot of problems and god needs to make us reach rock bottom to realize our problems and fix them ourselves right okay so..."
"...the sin is not as severe as the ones at the bottom layers."
"...layers within Purgatory, it's also separated by no love at the bottom, which is like pride and then like whatever. And then like going..."
"...if you kill your slave then you would be in the bottom level of hell um that sucks in this modern world where we..."
"...allegory of the cave there are people who sit at the bottom of the cave and they're in chains and they're looking at a..."
"...much farther on this ridge because the sixth bridge at the bottom there is smashed to bits yet if you two still want to..."
"...it ruins slope along the bank and heap up at the bottom, you can climb. My leader stood a while with his sword, his..."
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