He says the characters revealed through that process feel like real people talking both to him and among themselves independently.
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Revelation
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Key Notes
Jiang says the entire point of Purgatory is to force self-reflection, and dreams are one major instrument because they reveal what a person cannot know directly while awake.
Jiang accepts the idea that Dante may be competing with Ovid and echoing visionary scriptural writing while using metamorphosis to make the approach to Lucifer feel like horror.
A student says psychedelic revelation often ends at a truth the Divine Comedy states with greater clarity, while personal trips are flawed rewritings filtered through personality.
The quoted passage says a mortal could speak this secret truth on earth because it was revealed by someone who had seen the circles above.
He says Dante is not fully enlightened at the start; the act of writing the Divine Comedy is itself revelatory and changes him as a person.
He says poetry is a revelation from God and the poet is finally a scribe or co-creator serving a divine process rather than an autonomous inventor.
The quoted email alleges that troops were told the war was part of God's divine plan and tied to Revelation, Armageddon, and Jesus' return.
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"at these characters like i don't know these people i've never met these people and they feel real to me but knowing that but..."
"you're sleeping right when you sleep what happens you dream right you understand the and you're you're right the entire point of purgatory is..."
"Yeah, that's a very interesting idea, right? Because there are certain poets that Dante admires. Virgil is definitely among the top, but there's also..."
"And also in the Bible, in the book of Revelations, which is the last book of the Bible, John wrote a lot of visions..."
"Excellent. Okay, right. So we're approaching Lucifer, right? We're approaching the inner core of Lucifer. And maybe what he's trying to do is convey..."
"...Yes. Where, like, imagine if this is crystal clear, your own revelations at the end of a trip are like slight flaws in a..."
"You need not wonder if a mortal told such secret truth on earth. It was disclosed to him by one who sought here above..."
"Okay. So that means in the beginning of the writing, he's not quite yet, like, enlightenment, right? Like, to a state of enlightenment."
"...thing, right? Because what's happening is that the poetry is a revelation from God, okay? It is... You are co -creating the process, but..."
"He urged us to tell our troops that this was all part of God's divine plan, and he specifically Wait, I'm sorry. Wait a..."
"And he specifically referenced numerous citations out of the book of Revelation referring to Armageddon and the imminent return of Jesus Christ. He said..."
"All right, so let me explain. Okay, so I know this is a hard idea, but genius does not come from hard work. It..."
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