Not fortune-telling but a social critique that warns present society of judgment.
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prophecy
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The same speech denounces later French crimes through prophecy, including a Charles who comes with Judas's lance, a ruler who sells his daughter, and the fleur-de-lis making Christ's vicar prisoner at Anagni.
Forese’s speech also contains a moral prophecy against Florentine immodesty, presenting future punishment as already legible from purgatorial foresight.
Forese predicts that Dante’s city is being deprived of good and is headed toward wretched ruin, with Corso dragged to destruction.
He argues Macbeth begins internally performing the murder before he consciously resolves to kill Duncan, because the witches' prophecy fuses kingship with usurpation in his imagination.
Jiang connects Dante's hatred of fortune tellers to a critique of tragedies where prophecy appears to reduce choice, asking whether Macbeth's world is ruled by gods or predictions that manipulate human action.
The prophecy about the grandson becoming a hunter of wolves marks the canto as not just social criticism but forward-looking moral judgment.
Dante's address to Florence is read as prophetic doom: the city should take pride in how many of its citizens appear in hell, but that only means punishment is coming.
Jiang distinguishes Paradiso from Inferno by saying Paradiso is vision or revelation, while Inferno is prophecy understood as social critique rather than fortune-telling.
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"Charles came to Italy and for amends made Coradin a victim and then thrusts back Thomas into heaven for amends. I see a time,..."
"For even the Barbagea of Sardinia is far more modest in its women than that Barbagea when I loved her. Oh, sweet brother, what..."
"Even as birds that winter on the Nile at times will slow and form a flock in air, then speed their flight and form..."
"And yet, however quick is my return, my longing for these shores would have me here sooner. Because the place where I was set..."
"No contradiction there. But they're said in a very different tenor. The person who says what's done is done, or to use the more..."
"...by the merging of the idea of usurpation, killing, and this prophecy, which places him already as king. He says, and these are the..."
"...yet, to his conscious mind, decided to do what the witch's prophecy might be possible. They don't say you're going to murder Duncan. They..."
"and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, the example of course is the Oedipus Rex tragedy,..."
"Because if you think about it, if Tiresias, the fortune tellers, didn't provide these fortunes, then Oedipus would not have had the tragedy that..."
"...and it will serve you too to keep in mind what prophecy reveals to me. I see your grandson. He's become a hunter of..."
"Canto 26. Be joyous, Florence. You're great indeed. For overseeing land you beat your wings. Through every part of Hell your name extends. Among..."
"Okay. All right. So here Dante is referencing the prophetic tradition, okay? He is spelling doom for Florence. He's like, Florence, you guys should..."
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