Upper nobility who identify their wealth and status with being the best of the best.
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Upper nobility who identify their wealth and status with being the best of the best.
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The conservative Senate faction; the transcript renders the term as 'optimist/optimists,' likely an ASR error.
The upper nobility who defend Rome's existing order and the tradition of piety, liberty, and republica. The conservative faction Jiang says Pompey and Crassus belonged to as supporters of Sulla.
The optimates/populares conflict arises because conquest concentrates wealth while landless peasants and lower nobility become politically exploitable.
Tiberius Gracchus proposes a moderate public-land reform and is killed because the nobility treats the state itself as its property.
The factional split becomes upper nobility versus lower nobility: optimates defend the existing order and populares seek change by aligning with the mass of discontented people.
In Jiang's answer to a student, optimates and populares come from the same narrow noble-family network; the conflict is partly generational, with fathers and grandfathers resisting sons seeking power.
Caesar survived Sulla's proscription because his wealthy family could bribe Sulla, but Sulla's attempt to solve conflict by elevating the optimates failed after Sulla died.
The optimates read Caesar as a braggart and libertine whose talent and charisma served personal political advancement rather than Rome's glory.
As consul, Caesar pushes land reform and seeks Gaul for glory, while the optimates try to block him by assigning the next consul to Italy where wars and triumphs are impossible.
The optimates decide to strip Caesar's command and prosecute him because his military celebrity makes him electorally unbeatable, while his illegal and immoral acts give the Senate a real case.
Timestamped Evidence
"...creates conflict between the upper nobility and the lower nobility. The optimates are called the upper nobility. And the populaires are called the lower..."
"Optimates just means the best of the best. Okay? Why do I have so much money? Because I'm better than you are. In fact,..."
"Okay? This is one of the most radical turning points in Roman history. So, right now, there's massive inequality in Rome. The nobility have..."
"No one's using this stuff. Give it to the people to work to generate more wealth for our society. We have more tax revenue...."
"actually wanted to avenge Caesar but market they stopped it and Okay, so lepidus is also part of the equation. In the center is..."
"...Rome would be called, the upper nobility would be called the optimates. Okay? Optimates just means best people. We're the best. And our responsibility..."
"Oh. Okay. So Pompey and Crassus and Caesar, how did they form their alliance? Right? Okay. So the first thing to understand is Pompey..."
"Okay? And these people, lower nobility, who want to change, they're called populaires. And that's where we get the term populist folk."
"Yeah, this is a great question, okay? What's the relationship between the Ottomans and the popular leaders? Okay, there's exactly 20 noble families in..."
"And he's the nephew of Marius. And that's why he was, he was proscribed. Okay? Now, the good thing is, if you're rich, you..."
"These are like psychopaths. Right? He's like, I'm gonna come back and kill every one of you. Every one of you. Right? But again,..."
"Okay? He's arrogant. He just brags all the time. He's appeasing the people. He's exactly, what Romans should not be. Okay? He's impious. He..."
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