Lower nobility using popular discontent to contest elite access to power.
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populares
Lower nobility using popular discontent to contest elite access to power.
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Lower nobility seeking political change and power through alignment with the people.
The optimates/populares conflict arises because conquest concentrates wealth while landless peasants and lower nobility become politically exploitable.
Caesar can be wealthy and still populares because money and status are different; civil war comes when elites without status cannot access power.
The factional split becomes upper nobility versus lower nobility: optimates defend the existing order and populares seek change by aligning with the mass of discontented people.
In Jiang's answer to a student, optimates and populares come from the same narrow noble-family network; the conflict is partly generational, with fathers and grandfathers resisting sons seeking power.
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"Optimates just means the best of the best. Okay? Why do I have so much money? Because I'm better than you are. In fact,..."
"Then what they do is they get the slaves that they conquer to come work this land. Right? Now, the peasants have no choice..."
"I remember when you were talking about Julius Caesar, you said the only reason why he survived was because, like, survived the Holocaust. Not..."
"Okay. So, to remind you, okay, the conflict arises between upper nobility and lower nobility. So, upper nobility are just the optimists, people like,..."
"Okay? And these people, lower nobility, who want to change, they're called populaires. And that's where we get the term populist folk."
"And it's usually between the upper nobility and the lower nobility. Okay? So upper nobility are people who are established. They're the wealthiest citizens..."
"Yeah, this is a great question, okay? What's the relationship between the Ottomans and the popular leaders? Okay, there's exactly 20 noble families in..."
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