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Forest

The Pygmy attitude is trust: they do not need to control nature because they believe the forest and its animals know them.

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The Malimo is introduced as a trumpet-like instrument that allows Pygmies to communicate with the forest and spirit world and resolve problems.

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In Turnbull's passage, the Pygmies' fearlessness comes from feeling themselves part of the forest and fearing only what is not of the forest.

Lecture interpretation of Turnbull passage.

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The Pygmy attitude is trust: they do not need to control nature because they believe the forest and its animals know them.

Interpretation of quoted Turnbull material in this lecture.

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The Malimo is called when hunting is bad, illness happens, or someone dies, because bad events mean the forest or spirits are not properly awake and caring for the community.

Lecture synthesis of Pygmy and shamanic practice.

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Singing to the forest wakes it up happy and restores well-being; Jiang reads this as communicating with spirits in the same pattern as shamanic spirit-world travel.

Synthesis claim in this lecture.

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Jiang says the shared idea across these religions is that animals, plants, and humans are interconnected and that the spirit world or forest is the real world.

Causal model summarized in the 2024-08-29 lecture

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Jiang says settled communities depleted nearby forest resources, which meant they had to farm.

Timestamped Evidence

The World More Real Than Reality

2024-09-05, day precision · Civilization #3: The Religious Imagination

Transcript

"...like instrument and the Malimo allows them to communicate with the forest it allows them to communicate with the spirit world and that's how..."

The World More Real Than Reality

2024-09-05, day precision · Civilization #3: The Religious Imagination

Transcript

"But for most of human history, for most people, this is not playing. This is not pretending. It's true. It's real. It's what allows..."

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