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Jiang insists that purgatorial hunger must be real rather than merely metaphorical, otherwise the pain and desire would have no meaning.
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diagnosis
Jiang's strongest slavery claim here is that domination endures partly because the dominated come to believe they should occupy that role and find meaning in it, which he presents as the scandal Dante would reject.
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A student argues that the contemporary meaning of homosexuality has changed because it now signals openness rather than exclusion.
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Jiang hedges that he guesses pronunciation and meaning have not changed much, while explicitly acknowledging that Aurelia would know better.
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Jiang says that when one knows the Italian, meaning is captured in the language itself, so the sounds can generate subconscious images and excite a connection to the divine.
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Jiang says Dante can forgive others by recognizing that everything has a purpose as long as he fulfills his own purpose.
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A student argues that the Divine Comedy reinterprets suffering as something one can undergo in order to make positive change rather than as mere obedience to church authority.
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One student proposes that a world of total perfection would be meaningless.
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"...hunger, right? Because only if it's real, does it have any meaning. If you have to feel real pain, real desire for it to..."
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"...be a slave I want to be a slave I find meaning in being a slave and for Dante that is just outrageous yes"
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"I just think the definition changed. So if you think it's a bad thing and this thing changed, then, like, you can't just say..."
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"So, yeah, I think I understand his question, that he thinks that homosexuality today represents openness instead of closeness and exclusiveness. So then it..."
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"I'm guessing not. My guess is it hasn't, but you would know better than I do."
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"...if you actually know the Italian, what will happen is the meaning is actually captured in the language itself, okay? So that as you..."
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"recognizes that everything has a purpose do you understand everything has a purpose and that's why he's able to forgive others because as long..."
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"like it proposes a solution for people who like went through suffering without understanding why they went through suffering because like they went through..."
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"...of all interconnectedness right everything is interconnected together um the role meaning every part of the body is important right if you lose a..."
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"...anything you want, well, no consequence, then this universe has no meaning by itself. So that was your answer. Die. Okay. So let's think..."
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"...world is to navigate these patterns, to seek our own individual meaning in this world, okay? The world could collapse tomorrow. That does not..."
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