A student reinforces Jiang's line by linking alchemy to Tower-of-Babel ambition: the will to replace God and distort natural order repeats whenever humans keep pressing impossible projects.
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Natural order
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A student formulates the issue as the will to replace God and distort the natural order he established.
A student offers the conventional explanation that homosexuality threatens humanity's continuation and thus the natural order, but another student says that explanation still does not feel persuasive.
Jiang says immigration is not natural for most people because the natural impulse is to help one's birth community grow, not abandon it for a better community.
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"Yeah. I also agree with the fact that if you have a will to distort the order that God has set up to be,..."
"It's like if there's a way, a will, there's a way. So if there's a will to replace God, right? And distort his order..."
"It could be seen as... Yeah, go ahead. It's fine. Go ahead. I think it could be seen as violence because it could lead..."
"Yeah. Actually, I don't think it makes sense. I'm not gay, of course. But, you know, I still believe that if you have free..."
"Okay. That's a great question. And I'm sure everyone's familiar with this question, which is like, what can we do about this situation? Well,..."
"And they're not going to be able to conform to the community. Okay? And historically, these people have been killed by the communities. And..."
"Could it be that when society is arising, there's like a natural order and a natural law that everyone follows, but when the society..."
"...truth that spoke to people intuitively but which went against the natural order and what was that truth i personally believe that he was..."
"...So Pax Americana started to itself ignore the rules based on natural order."
"...your assessment. So before this idea of the liberal rules -based natural order. It's basically these Western nations bullying. Exploiting and colonizing the rest..."
"...because jesus was a rebel he was trying to subvert the natural order right the natural order"
"...develops, a strict hierarchy emerges. And the hierarchy goes against the natural order. Also remember that people at any time can just choose to..."
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