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A student says Miltonic Satan becomes persuasive by steelmanning every objection until sympathy turns into empathy and a worldview shift.
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Persuasion
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A transcript-matched topic anchored by excerpts such as "I'd read Paradise Lost before I read Inferno. And so I was expecting, it's like a paradigm shift or the Germans would call it..."
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A student offers the conventional explanation that homosexuality threatens humanity's continuation and thus the natural order, but another student says that explanation still does not feel persuasive.
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A student warns that Jiang's project of spreading Dante will become harder if he presents Dante as superior to science or common knowledge.
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Odysseus builds persuasive force by moving Achilles through vivid contrasts and time: feast versus desert, present Hector, past Peleus, and future victory, riches, marriage, and Greek glory.
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Because listeners who do not want the truth cannot be convinced, one should know the truth and be free oneself rather than trying to convince everyone else.
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He accepts the student's distinction that the scientific method is useful for convincing others and spreading an inspired idea after it has arrived.
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"I'd read Paradise Lost before I read Inferno. And so I was expecting, it's like a paradigm shift or the Germans would call it..."
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"Yes. That's right. So not only do we have to sympathize with him, we have to be like, feel that we are like him...."
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"It could be seen as... Yeah, go ahead. It's fine. Go ahead. I think it could be seen as violence because it could lead..."
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"Yeah. Actually, I don't think it makes sense. I'm not gay, of course. But, you know, I still believe that if you have free..."
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"the context of dante so back to your stated mission for this class is to spread dante and make people realize how good dante..."
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"Okay? So how does he do that? What he does is he expands the imagination of Achilles. Alright? That's why the speech is so..."
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"Before you came to the war, you promised him that you would win glory for him. You promised that you would win glory for..."
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"Let's get out of here. What's going to happen to him? They're going to kill him. That's what Plato says. If you dare speak..."
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"Okay, so. I agree with what you're saying, but personally, I think scientific method is more like how people, how these inspirational ideas are..."
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"Oh, yes. Good point, exactly. That's exactly correct, okay? So I use scientific method in order to convince other people that I'm correct. You're..."
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"...zeal. This was an age when converting unbelievers by force or persuasion was a foremost concern that the Jews too indulged in it. It's..."
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Jiang turns late Inferno and early Purgatorio into a struggle over imagination itself.
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Dante's Hell is not just a ladder of sins in this lecture.
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The seminar begins with line-by-line questions and expands into a larger claim: Dante matters because poetry trains imagination, vows turn hope into action, and faith, hope, and love stop meaning obedience and start meaning...
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A source-grounded reading of Homer as civilizational engine: the Iliad trains Greeks to fight with speeches, poetry projects movies onto the world, language controls time and space, and the poet becomes the flame through...
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A source-grounded reading of the Great Books as initiation: school materialism is named as the great lie, consciousness becomes the real substance of the universe, attention is true wealth, and reading becomes a way...
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A source-grounded reading of Jiang's attack on the scientific worldview: Big Bang, evolution, neuroscience, school, and transhumanism become parts of one material story that forgets divinity, fears death, and lets power reinvent reality.
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