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But the problem is, Americans had just experienced the Viet..." }, { "ref": "video:interview-ril8pssntzg@transcript:v1#seg-0063", "segment_id": "seg-0063", "start": 2826.04, "end": 2861.4, "time_label": "47:06", "speaker": "SPEAKER_01", "excerpt": "And so whatever he created actually belonged as an IP to HP. So Steve Wozniak creates this open source computer. And then he goes to his superiors at HP and says, look, I'm working for you guys. You guys are giving me t..." }, { "ref": "video:interview-ril8pssntzg@transcript:v1#seg-0065", "segment_id": "seg-0065", "start": 2871.74, "end": 2942.32, "time_label": "47:51", "speaker": "SPEAKER_01", "excerpt": "So Steve Wozniak was an employee of HP. And he was trained by HP, meaning his engineering skills came from that environment. And he had access to all of HP's technology. 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And he's the president of the United States and call him up and he'll tell you, you know, his thinking and all that...." }, { "ref": "video:interview-ril8pssntzg@transcript:v1#seg-0096", "segment_id": "seg-0096", "start": 3946.08, "end": 4015.06, "time_label": "1:05:46", "speaker": "SPEAKER_01", "excerpt": "thinking about Donald Trump all the time, by giving him our psychic attention, are we basically manifesting God into Donald Trump so that his consciousness becomes eternal, locked in? Because we make it eternal. Because..." }, { "ref": "video:interview-ril8pssntzg@transcript:v1#seg-0099", "segment_id": "seg-0099", "start": 4052.95, "end": 4074.06, "time_label": "1:07:32", "speaker": "SPEAKER_01", "excerpt": "Yes. He, he's a psychic demon, okay? And you feed a psychic demon through intense emotions. And there's so many intense emotions surrounding Donald Trump. People either hate him or love him. 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Science prides itself on being above religion, on being entirely focused on the truth. But truth can only be arrived at through debate, through questioning. Through exploration. How much debate happened during the COVID epidemic? None. If you try to debate this, they shut you down. They ostracize you from society. 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And that's how the world, the universe functions...." }, { "ref": "video:interview-ril8pssntzg@transcript:v1#seg-0036", "segment_id": "seg-0036", "start": 1488.219, "end": 1549.566, "time_label": "24:48", "speaker": "SPEAKER_01", "excerpt": "What I believe is our time in this world is short and it's precious and we are eternal, but we have to make the most of our time here. And the Greeks have a word for this, eudaimonia, which is flourishing. So every day..." }, { "ref": "video:interview-ril8pssntzg@transcript:v1#seg-0037", "segment_id": "seg-0037", "start": 1549.566, "end": 1629.77, "time_label": "25:49", "speaker": "SPEAKER_01", "excerpt": "What happens to our mind is reflected throughout the universe. So if we are creative, the universe becomes creative itself. And so for me, I take this to mean that my role in this world is to use my imagination to inspi..." }, { "ref": "video:interview-ril8pssntzg@transcript:v1#seg-0038", "segment_id": "seg-0038", "start": 1629.77, "end": 1646.22, "time_label": "27:09", "speaker": "SPEAKER_01", "excerpt": "what is just what is moral if you are proud that everyone in the universe who's ever lived and whoever will ever live watches what you do and smiles at you i think that's a really fascinating philosophy" }, { "ref": "video:interview-ril8pssntzg@transcript:v1#seg-0039", "segment_id": "seg-0039", "start": 1646.64, "end": 1673.32, "time_label": "27:26", "speaker": "SPEAKER_00", "excerpt": "and a great takeaway um if you don't mind i do have a few questions that i think now that we've covered a timeline and kind of your view uh on all of it and your takeaway there are some takeaways that i have that i foun..." }, { "ref": "video:interview-ril8pssntzg@transcript:v1#seg-0040", "segment_id": "seg-0040", "start": 1673.32, "end": 1758.44, "time_label": "27:53", "speaker": "SPEAKER_01", "excerpt": "them believe in one god many gods or no god okay so i think that um we've had different societies where we tried either no god many gods or just one god and i think you we you get different societies so the greek were p..." } ], "lens_points": [], "lens_points_detail": [] }, { "refs": [ "video:interview-ril8pssntzg@transcript:v1#seg-0041", "video:interview-ril8pssntzg@transcript:v1#seg-0042", "video:interview-ril8pssntzg@transcript:v1#seg-0043", "video:interview-ril8pssntzg@transcript:v1#seg-0044", "video:interview-ril8pssntzg@transcript:v1#seg-0045", "video:interview-ril8pssntzg@transcript:v1#seg-0046", "video:interview-ril8pssntzg@transcript:v1#seg-0047", "video:interview-ril8pssntzg@transcript:v1#seg-0048" ], "kind": "exchange", "summary": "Asked which God-belief best controls society and why Jesus was killed, Jiang compares polytheism, monotheism, and no-God systems, then argues Jesus threatened the status quo by telling slaves and the oppressed they were divine souls.", "speaker_attribution": "Interview exchange: SPEAKER_00 is host Jack Neel or ad read; SPEAKER_01 is Jiang unless noted.", "confidence": "high", "refs_detail": [ { "ref": "video:interview-ril8pssntzg@transcript:v1#seg-0041", "segment_id": "seg-0041", "start": 1758.44, "end": 1832.58, "time_label": "29:18", "speaker": "SPEAKER_01", "excerpt": "to ask the hard questions um one god is a recent phenomenon and it's led us to be the most energetic people in the world right so think about our accomplishments where we're able to build skyscrapers we're able to build..." }, { "ref": "video:interview-ril8pssntzg@transcript:v1#seg-0042", "segment_id": "seg-0042", "start": 1832.83, "end": 1892.6, "time_label": "30:32", "speaker": "SPEAKER_01", "excerpt": "that's the issue in china where i live where we never really had a god we had an emperor so but the idea that one person can become god um has led to a very cruel and unjust world um so i would say there are strengths a..." }, { "ref": "video:interview-ril8pssntzg@transcript:v1#seg-0043", "segment_id": "seg-0043", "start": 1892.6, "end": 1957.04, "time_label": "31:32", "speaker": "SPEAKER_01", "excerpt": "is that if you're a messenger of god it doesn't really matter if you die or not what matters is are you able to deliver the message properly and jesus was able to to do that so jesus is revered in the islamic tradition..." }, { "ref": "video:interview-ril8pssntzg@transcript:v1#seg-0044", "segment_id": "seg-0044", "start": 1957.04, "end": 2037.9, "time_label": "32:37", "speaker": "SPEAKER_01", "excerpt": "and which drives people into this tremendous emotional angst you have a lot of war started over uh over this this issue um right so um my understanding is that if you look at the historical evidence jesus was probably c..." }, { "ref": "video:interview-ril8pssntzg@transcript:v1#seg-0045", "segment_id": "seg-0045", "start": 2037.9, "end": 2101.14, "time_label": "33:57", "speaker": "SPEAKER_01", "excerpt": "of his sayings and it and people believe some people believe not everyone but some people believe it actually precedes the gospel of mark which was about 70 um and if you just read the gospel of thomas i think it actual..." }, { "ref": "video:interview-ril8pssntzg@transcript:v1#seg-0046", "segment_id": "seg-0046", "start": 2101.14, "end": 2157.05, "time_label": "35:01", "speaker": "SPEAKER_01", "excerpt": "a very strict hierarchy and to say that uh the person with all the money has no authority over me uh the person with all the power has no authority over me because i'm a divine soul uh that could be very upsetting so we..." }, { "ref": "video:interview-ril8pssntzg@transcript:v1#seg-0047", "segment_id": "seg-0047", "start": 2157.05, "end": 2170.58, "time_label": "35:57", "speaker": "SPEAKER_01", "excerpt": "liberating slaves psychologically and emotionally and giving tremendous comfort to them but this made them less productive in which case you know you're causing economic damage you're destroying property" }, { "ref": "video:interview-ril8pssntzg@transcript:v1#seg-0048", "segment_id": "seg-0048", "start": 2172.25, "end": 2185.19, "time_label": "36:12", "speaker": "SPEAKER_00", "excerpt": "so he was considered uh uh basically a rebel you said paul was a spy that used jesus as a political symbol do you think the cia uses money to destroy the slaves or did he use the money for his own cause" } ], "lens_points": [], "lens_points_detail": [] }, { "refs": [ "video:interview-ril8pssntzg@transcript:v1#seg-0049", "video:interview-ril8pssntzg@transcript:v1#seg-0050", "video:interview-ril8pssntzg@transcript:v1#seg-0051", "video:interview-ril8pssntzg@transcript:v1#seg-0052", "video:interview-ril8pssntzg@transcript:v1#seg-0053", "video:interview-ril8pssntzg@transcript:v1#seg-0054", "video:interview-ril8pssntzg@transcript:v1#seg-0055", "video:interview-ril8pssntzg@transcript:v1#seg-0056" ], "kind": "exchange", "summary": "Jiang answers the spy/terror/control and Satoshi questions by describing imperial sponsorship of Islamic extremism and then using game-theory questions to identify the American deep state or CIA as the likely blockchain beneficiary.", "speaker_attribution": "Interview exchange: SPEAKER_00 is host Jack Neel or ad read; SPEAKER_01 is Jiang unless noted.", "confidence": "high", "refs_detail": [ { "ref": "video:interview-ril8pssntzg@transcript:v1#seg-0049", "segment_id": "seg-0049", "start": 2185.19, "end": 2246.11, "time_label": "36:25", "speaker": "SPEAKER_01", "excerpt": "control to create terrorists um look i think if you just look at the history of the middle east a lot of these islamic extremists were creation of empire right so let's go back to 1950s and the spreading of um wahhabism..." }, { "ref": "video:interview-ril8pssntzg@transcript:v1#seg-0050", "segment_id": "seg-0050", "start": 2246.11, "end": 2311.96, "time_label": "37:26", "speaker": "SPEAKER_01", "excerpt": "the soviet union which has always been problematic for the soviet union right there were that many muslims in america so why wouldn't you encourage fanatical violent extremism right that's number one that so that that w..." }, { "ref": "video:interview-ril8pssntzg@transcript:v1#seg-0051", "segment_id": "seg-0051", "start": 2311.96, "end": 2384.38, "time_label": "38:31", "speaker": "SPEAKER_01", "excerpt": "socialism right um and um the third thing is that islamic extremism destabilizes the middle east we've seen this play out over and over again and so how does this instability help america and britain because it stabiliz..." }, { "ref": "video:interview-ril8pssntzg@transcript:v1#seg-0052", "segment_id": "seg-0052", "start": 2384.38, "end": 2446.6, "time_label": "39:44", "speaker": "SPEAKER_01", "excerpt": "become Mujahideen to fight the Soviets and so the CIA financed all this who do you think is Satoshi Nakamoto well I mean they say that it translates into sensual intelligence and the story makes no sense right because w..." }, { "ref": "video:interview-ril8pssntzg@transcript:v1#seg-0053", "segment_id": "seg-0053", "start": 2446.6, "end": 2506.57, "time_label": "40:46", "speaker": "SPEAKER_01", "excerpt": "game theory analysis, you look at all possibilities, you end up with a deep state, the American deep state. You end up with the CIA. So the first question, who would have the expertise and the technology to create the b..." }, { "ref": "video:interview-ril8pssntzg@transcript:v1#seg-0054", "segment_id": "seg-0054", "start": 2506.85, "end": 2577.44, "time_label": "41:46", "speaker": "SPEAKER_01", "excerpt": "It is a government within a government, right? It is basically outside of all political control. But it needs a mechanism to finance its operations. It basically needs a monitoring operation. And blockchain is a great m..." }, { "ref": "video:interview-ril8pssntzg@transcript:v1#seg-0055", "segment_id": "seg-0055", "start": 2577.68, "end": 2581.86, "time_label": "42:57", "speaker": "SPEAKER_01", "excerpt": "I want to know where the databases are, where the servers are physically." }, { "ref": "video:interview-ril8pssntzg@transcript:v1#seg-0056", "segment_id": "seg-0056", "start": 2585.49, "end": 2590.87, "time_label": "43:05", "speaker": "SPEAKER_00", "excerpt": "It's interesting too that it's designed like a religion. Yeah. Hmm." } ], "lens_points": [], "lens_points_detail": [] }, { "refs": [ "video:interview-ril8pssntzg@transcript:v1#seg-0057", "video:interview-ril8pssntzg@transcript:v1#seg-0058", "video:interview-ril8pssntzg@transcript:v1#seg-0059", "video:interview-ril8pssntzg@transcript:v1#seg-0060", "video:interview-ril8pssntzg@transcript:v1#seg-0061", "video:interview-ril8pssntzg@transcript:v1#seg-0062", "video:interview-ril8pssntzg@transcript:v1#seg-0063", "video:interview-ril8pssntzg@transcript:v1#seg-0064" ], "kind": "exchange", "summary": "Jiang moves from Zuckerberg and the Winklevoss twins to front-person technology history: Bitcoin investment looks strange to him, while the 1970s credibility crisis made government-backed computing need cute public-facing nerds.", "speaker_attribution": "Interview exchange: SPEAKER_00 is host Jack Neel or ad read; SPEAKER_01 is Jiang unless noted.", "confidence": "high", "refs_detail": [ { "ref": "video:interview-ril8pssntzg@transcript:v1#seg-0057", "segment_id": "seg-0057", "start": 2591.47, "end": 2595.31, "time_label": "43:11", "speaker": "SPEAKER_01", "excerpt": "I'll tell you something else, okay? Mark Zuckerberg." }, { "ref": "video:interview-ril8pssntzg@transcript:v1#seg-0058", "segment_id": "seg-0058", "start": 2595.45, "end": 2596.91, "time_label": "43:15", "speaker": "SPEAKER_00", "excerpt": "That's what I was going to ask you about, yeah." }, { "ref": "video:interview-ril8pssntzg@transcript:v1#seg-0059", "segment_id": "seg-0059", "start": 2596.99, "end": 2654.49, "time_label": "43:16", "speaker": "SPEAKER_01", "excerpt": "So Mark Zuckerberg had his conflict with the Winklevoss twins. The Winklevoss twins, okay? And so the Winklevoss twins sued Mark Zuckerberg, claiming that Zuckerberg stole the idea for Facebook from them. And this went..." }, { "ref": "video:interview-ril8pssntzg@transcript:v1#seg-0060", "segment_id": "seg-0060", "start": 2654.87, "end": 2708.11, "time_label": "44:14", "speaker": "SPEAKER_00", "excerpt": "Hey, really quick. Do you have a 401k, a Roth IRA, or happen to have a lot of money in crypto? Because you're definitely going to want to hear about this. See, the biggest supporters of this podcast right now are the gu..." }, { "ref": "video:interview-ril8pssntzg@transcript:v1#seg-0061", "segment_id": "seg-0061", "start": 2708.45, "end": 2751.31, "time_label": "45:08", "speaker": "SPEAKER_00", "excerpt": "So if you guys want to get access, just go to jackneil.com, backslash iTrust, or scan the QR code on screen. Again, that is jackneil.com, backslash iTrust, or hit the first link in the description for an easy $100 bonus..." }, { "ref": "video:interview-ril8pssntzg@transcript:v1#seg-0062", "segment_id": "seg-0062", "start": 2752.09, "end": 2825.48, "time_label": "45:52", "speaker": "SPEAKER_01", "excerpt": "And the Pentagon had put all this money into the internet as a surveillance tool. They wanted to promote the internet and computers as a way to control people. But the problem is, Americans had just experienced the Viet..." }, { "ref": "video:interview-ril8pssntzg@transcript:v1#seg-0063", "segment_id": "seg-0063", "start": 2826.04, "end": 2861.4, "time_label": "47:06", "speaker": "SPEAKER_01", "excerpt": "And so whatever he created actually belonged as an IP to HP. So Steve Wozniak creates this open source computer. And then he goes to his superiors at HP and says, look, I'm working for you guys. You guys are giving me t..." }, { "ref": "video:interview-ril8pssntzg@transcript:v1#seg-0064", "segment_id": "seg-0064", "start": 2861.4, "end": 2871.68, "time_label": "47:41", "speaker": "SPEAKER_00", "excerpt": "And then he becomes a billionaire along with Bill Gates. So HP gave Steve Wozniak the ability to sell Mac for free. 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And he was trained by HP, meaning his engineering skills came from that environment. And he had access to all of HP's technology. And that's how he was able to construct a persona..." }, { "ref": "video:interview-ril8pssntzg@transcript:v1#seg-0066", "segment_id": "seg-0066", "start": 2943.1, "end": 2963.13, "time_label": "49:03", "speaker": "SPEAKER_00", "excerpt": "I think there's about 3,000 like individual billionaires publicly documented by Forbes. Like did we, like a hundred years ago, was that a thing? Right? Were all these individual billionaires that had these come from not..." }, { "ref": "video:interview-ril8pssntzg@transcript:v1#seg-0067", "segment_id": "seg-0067", "start": 2964.29, "end": 3029.26, "time_label": "49:24", "speaker": "SPEAKER_01", "excerpt": "I think this is a recent phenomenon. If you go back to the Gilded Age, these billionaires like John D. Rockefeller and Andrew Carnegie, what people don't recognize is that like when they died, if you actually look at th..." }, { "ref": "video:interview-ril8pssntzg@transcript:v1#seg-0068", "segment_id": "seg-0068", "start": 3030.12, "end": 3043.23, "time_label": "50:30", "speaker": "SPEAKER_01", "excerpt": "So they need to disguise the fact that they didn't actually have that much money, right? And the way they disguise that is by donating the money to charity and saying, oh, well, you know, I gave it all away before I die..." }, { "ref": "video:interview-ril8pssntzg@transcript:v1#seg-0069", "segment_id": "seg-0069", "start": 3049.52, "end": 3070.17, "time_label": "50:49", "speaker": "SPEAKER_00", "excerpt": "I'll ask you, do you think science is the most worshiped religion on earth? This is a thought I had watching your videos is what happens when an entire group of people worships one religion is it never feels like a reli..." }, { "ref": "video:interview-ril8pssntzg@transcript:v1#seg-0070", "segment_id": "seg-0070", "start": 3071.34, "end": 3138.57, "time_label": "51:11", "speaker": "SPEAKER_01", "excerpt": "Look, let's look at COVID, okay? So COVID, you have this virus going around. It was mutating very, very fast. And, um, then they, in like, I think less than a year, right? Eight, nine months, they introduced the vaccine..." }, { "ref": "video:interview-ril8pssntzg@transcript:v1#seg-0071", "segment_id": "seg-0071", "start": 3138.81, "end": 3212.68, "time_label": "52:18", "speaker": "SPEAKER_01", "excerpt": "When you have a vaccine, the vaccine is, a fortification against the virus. But if the virus is shifting, what the virus will do is develop strategies to evade the fortification, right? Because it can shift. 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Yeah." }, { "ref": "video:interview-ril8pssntzg@transcript:v1#seg-0074", "segment_id": "seg-0074", "start": 3217.72, "end": 3242.5, "time_label": "53:37", "speaker": "SPEAKER_01", "excerpt": "And after it was revealed that there might be some side effects to this vaccines, including myocarditis. Okay. Not strong evidence, but I'm saying there might be some side effects because whenever you introduce a new va..." }, { "ref": "video:interview-ril8pssntzg@transcript:v1#seg-0075", "segment_id": "seg-0075", "start": 3243.88, "end": 3244.58, "time_label": "54:03", "speaker": "SPEAKER_00", "excerpt": "Not many." }, { "ref": "video:interview-ril8pssntzg@transcript:v1#seg-0076", "segment_id": "seg-0076", "start": 3244.86, "end": 3276.29, "time_label": "54:04", "speaker": "SPEAKER_01", "excerpt": "And when, you know, CNN makes fun of Joe Rogan for promoting Ivor Merton, even though Ivor Merton was won the Nobel prize, how many people thought CNN was correct? I mean, like, like it's just astonishing how the vast m..." }, { "ref": "video:interview-ril8pssntzg@transcript:v1#seg-0077", "segment_id": "seg-0077", "start": 3277.09, "end": 3284.66, "time_label": "54:37", "speaker": "SPEAKER_00", "excerpt": "Do you think it's fair to say that the most popular religion is one that never feels like a religion?" }, { "ref": "video:interview-ril8pssntzg@transcript:v1#seg-0078", "segment_id": "seg-0078", "start": 3284.9, "end": 3314.78, "time_label": "54:44", "speaker": "SPEAKER_01", "excerpt": "I would say so, yeah. Science prides itself on being above religion, on being entirely focused on the truth. But truth can only be arrived at through debate, through questioning. Through exploration. How much debate hap..." }, { "ref": "video:interview-ril8pssntzg@transcript:v1#seg-0079", "segment_id": "seg-0079", "start": 3315.65, "end": 3325.25, "time_label": "55:15", "speaker": "SPEAKER_00", "excerpt": "Yeah, it's an interesting one. Uh, because if you look at the origins of it, it's like, comes from magic, right?" }, { "ref": "video:interview-ril8pssntzg@transcript:v1#seg-0080", "segment_id": "seg-0080", "start": 3326.54, "end": 3392.34, "time_label": "55:26", "speaker": "SPEAKER_01", "excerpt": "Yeah. Um, look, I mean, clearly, that thing was a bioweapon. It was a bioweapon of some sort. Because in nature, viruses do not mutate that fast. It makes no sense for a virus to mutate that fast because a virus is tryi..." } ], "lens_points": [], "lens_points_detail": [] }, { "refs": [ "video:interview-ril8pssntzg@transcript:v1#seg-0081", "video:interview-ril8pssntzg@transcript:v1#seg-0082", "video:interview-ril8pssntzg@transcript:v1#seg-0083", "video:interview-ril8pssntzg@transcript:v1#seg-0084", "video:interview-ril8pssntzg@transcript:v1#seg-0085", "video:interview-ril8pssntzg@transcript:v1#seg-0086", "video:interview-ril8pssntzg@transcript:v1#seg-0087", "video:interview-ril8pssntzg@transcript:v1#seg-0088" ], "kind": "exchange", "summary": "After joking about official U.S.-China enmity, the host asks the three biggest lies; Jiang names death as final reckoning and individual powerlessness as destructive lies.", "speaker_attribution": "Interview exchange: SPEAKER_00 is host Jack Neel or ad read; SPEAKER_01 is Jiang unless noted.", "confidence": "high", "refs_detail": [ { "ref": "video:interview-ril8pssntzg@transcript:v1#seg-0081", "segment_id": "seg-0081", "start": 3392.7, "end": 3411.21, "time_label": "56:32", "speaker": "SPEAKER_01", "excerpt": "Because if China and, and the United States are competitors, why would the US military subcontract biological research, biological weapons research, by the way, to a, um, research facility in China that is affiliated wi..." }, { "ref": "video:interview-ril8pssntzg@transcript:v1#seg-0082", "segment_id": "seg-0082", "start": 3413.38, "end": 3418.2, "time_label": "56:53", "speaker": "SPEAKER_00", "excerpt": "But Professor Zhang, you're Chinese, I'm American, we're supposed, we're supposed to be enemies, right?" }, { "ref": "video:interview-ril8pssntzg@transcript:v1#seg-0083", "segment_id": "seg-0083", "start": 3419, "end": 3421.92, "time_label": "56:59", "speaker": "SPEAKER_01", "excerpt": "Yep. And, and, and then the world will be perfect. Yes." }, { "ref": "video:interview-ril8pssntzg@transcript:v1#seg-0084", "segment_id": "seg-0084", "start": 3423.76, "end": 3427.64, "time_label": "57:03", "speaker": "SPEAKER_00", "excerpt": "What do you think are the three biggest lies humans have been told? Um," }, { "ref": "video:interview-ril8pssntzg@transcript:v1#seg-0085", "segment_id": "seg-0085", "start": 3429.68, "end": 3485.74, "time_label": "57:09", "speaker": "SPEAKER_01", "excerpt": "I think the three biggest lies are death is the final reckoning. Whereas I think death is actually the beginning. I think that, um, if you look at secret societies, the way they initiate you into the society is through..." }, { "ref": "video:interview-ril8pssntzg@transcript:v1#seg-0086", "segment_id": "seg-0086", "start": 3485.86, "end": 3547.36, "time_label": "58:05", "speaker": "SPEAKER_01", "excerpt": "Don't be afraid of making mistakes. It's all part of the growing process. So I think death is one of the greatest lies. And it's, it's a very destructive lie where for whatever reason, everyone's afraid to die. So they..." }, { "ref": "video:interview-ril8pssntzg@transcript:v1#seg-0087", "segment_id": "seg-0087", "start": 3547.5, "end": 3571.36, "time_label": "59:07", "speaker": "SPEAKER_01", "excerpt": "Don't worry about geopolitics. Just worry about it. Don't worry about being a good person, being kind, open, generous to everyone around you. And you, you, you have made the world a better place. Um, you do matter. And..." }, { "ref": "video:interview-ril8pssntzg@transcript:v1#seg-0088", "segment_id": "seg-0088", "start": 3571.72, "end": 3575.64, "time_label": "59:31", "speaker": "SPEAKER_00", "excerpt": "I like those a lot. 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When I think that, you know, if you go and you explore, um, these indigenous communities around the wo..." }, { "ref": "video:interview-ril8pssntzg@transcript:v1#seg-0091", "segment_id": "seg-0091", "start": 3697.66, "end": 3702.78, "time_label": "1:01:37", "speaker": "SPEAKER_00", "excerpt": "What do you think elites believe is the secret to living forever?" }, { "ref": "video:interview-ril8pssntzg@transcript:v1#seg-0092", "segment_id": "seg-0092", "start": 3705.33, "end": 3767.5, "time_label": "1:01:45", "speaker": "SPEAKER_01", "excerpt": "Okay. So, um, the elites are actually obsessed with living forever. Um, and there are different reasons why this is the case. 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If you look at the history of memes, I think it was Richard Dawkins that had proposed like memetics in the first place. And Trump is the greatest meme of all time. And you know this because what..." }, { "ref": "video:interview-ril8pssntzg@transcript:v1#seg-0099", "segment_id": "seg-0099", "start": 4052.95, "end": 4074.06, "time_label": "1:07:32", "speaker": "SPEAKER_01", "excerpt": "Yes. He, he's a psychic demon, okay? And you feed a psychic demon through intense emotions. And there's so many intense emotions surrounding Donald Trump. People either hate him or love him. 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I'm just a stran..." }, { "ref": "video:interview-ril8pssntzg@transcript:v1#seg-0124", "segment_id": "seg-0124", "start": 4954.5, "end": 5017.51, "time_label": "1:22:34", "speaker": "SPEAKER_01", "excerpt": "And then the cousin was like, yeah, mom. But he went back to China. And that ended the conversation. I was never mentioned again in that household. So, I mean, my entire, my relatives, my family is shocked by how strang..." }, { "ref": "video:interview-ril8pssntzg@transcript:v1#seg-0125", "segment_id": "seg-0125", "start": 5017.63, "end": 5071.308, "time_label": "1:23:37", "speaker": "SPEAKER_01", "excerpt": "And a lot of people did become millionaires. But after a couple of years of doing that, I walked away. Because I didn't want to do this for the rest of my life. I didn't want to become a business person. 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And you have..." }, { "ref": "video:interview-ril8pssntzg@transcript:v1#seg-0003", "segment_id": "seg-0003", "start": 20.84, "end": 29.04, "time_label": "0:20", "speaker": "SPEAKER_00", "excerpt": "A son of Chinese immigrants in Toronto, he grew up poor, invisible, and obsessed with how power actually works. Who do you think is Satoshi Nakamoto?" }, { "ref": "video:interview-ril8pssntzg@transcript:v1#seg-0004", "segment_id": "seg-0004", "start": 29.04, "end": 37.56, "time_label": "0:29", "speaker": "SPEAKER_01", "excerpt": "They say that it translates into sensual intelligence. And when you do game theory analysis, you look at all possibilities, you end up with a deep state. You end up with a CIA." }, { "ref": "video:interview-ril8pssntzg@transcript:v1#seg-0005", "segment_id": "seg-0005", "start": 37.78, "end": 47.2, "time_label": "0:37", "speaker": "SPEAKER_00", "excerpt": "Now a high school history teacher in China, he's predicted Trump winning the election, America's invasion of Venezuela, and recently, the war between Iran and the US." }, { "ref": "video:interview-ril8pssntzg@transcript:v1#seg-0006", "segment_id": "seg-0006", "start": 47.68, "end": 63.76, "time_label": "0:47", "speaker": "SPEAKER_01", "excerpt": "What can I do that makes me so distinct that I might be popular on social media? And my solution was, I'm going to make some stupid predictions. And if they aren't correct, I'm going to... 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"seg-0042", "start": 1832.83, "end": 1892.6, "time_label": "30:32", "speaker": "SPEAKER_01", "excerpt": "that's the issue in china where i live where we never really had a god we had an emperor so but the idea that one person can become god um has led to a very cruel and unjust world um so i would say there are strengths a..." } ], "lens_points": [], "lens_points_detail": [] }, { "claim": "Jiang argues Jesus was likely crucified because his divine-soul message undermined Roman and Jewish authority by psychologically liberating slaves and the oppressed, creating economic damage.", "refs": [ "video:interview-ril8pssntzg@transcript:v1#seg-0043", "video:interview-ril8pssntzg@transcript:v1#seg-0044", "video:interview-ril8pssntzg@transcript:v1#seg-0045", "video:interview-ril8pssntzg@transcript:v1#seg-0046", "video:interview-ril8pssntzg@transcript:v1#seg-0047" ], "temporal_scope": "Historical-religious diagnosis stated on 2026-04-15.", "topic_tags": [ "jesus", "gnosticism", "slavery" ], 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2101.14, "time_label": "33:57", "speaker": "SPEAKER_01", "excerpt": "of his sayings and it and people believe some people believe not everyone but some people believe it actually precedes the gospel of mark which was about 70 um and if you just read the gospel of thomas i think it actual..." }, { "ref": "video:interview-ril8pssntzg@transcript:v1#seg-0046", "segment_id": "seg-0046", "start": 2101.14, "end": 2157.05, "time_label": "35:01", "speaker": "SPEAKER_01", "excerpt": "a very strict hierarchy and to say that uh the person with all the money has no authority over me uh the person with all the power has no authority over me because i'm a divine soul uh that could be very upsetting so we..." }, { "ref": "video:interview-ril8pssntzg@transcript:v1#seg-0047", "segment_id": "seg-0047", "start": 2157.05, "end": 2170.58, "time_label": "35:57", "speaker": "SPEAKER_01", "excerpt": "liberating slaves psychologically and emotionally and giving tremendous comfort to them but this made them less 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east a lot of these islamic extremists were creation of empire right so let's go back to 1950s and the spreading of um wahhabism..." }, { "ref": "video:interview-ril8pssntzg@transcript:v1#seg-0050", "segment_id": "seg-0050", "start": 2246.11, "end": 2311.96, "time_label": "37:26", "speaker": "SPEAKER_01", "excerpt": "the soviet union which has always been problematic for the soviet union right there were that many muslims in america so why wouldn't you encourage fanatical violent extremism right that's number one that so that that w..." }, { "ref": "video:interview-ril8pssntzg@transcript:v1#seg-0051", "segment_id": "seg-0051", "start": 2311.96, "end": 2384.38, "time_label": "38:31", "speaker": "SPEAKER_01", "excerpt": "socialism right um and um the third thing is that islamic extremism destabilizes the middle east we've seen this play out over and over again and so how does this instability help america and britain because it stabiliz..." } ], "lens_points": [], "lens_points_detail": 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You end up with the CIA. So the first question, who would have the expertise and the technology to create the b..." }, { "ref": "video:interview-ril8pssntzg@transcript:v1#seg-0054", "segment_id": "seg-0054", "start": 2506.85, "end": 2577.44, "time_label": "41:46", "speaker": "SPEAKER_01", "excerpt": "It is a government within a government, right? It is basically outside of all political control. But it needs a mechanism to finance its operations. It basically needs a monitoring operation. 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Mark Zuckerberg." }, { "ref": "video:interview-ril8pssntzg@transcript:v1#seg-0058", "segment_id": "seg-0058", "start": 2595.45, "end": 2596.91, "time_label": "43:15", "speaker": "SPEAKER_00", "excerpt": "That's what I was going to ask you about, yeah." }, { "ref": "video:interview-ril8pssntzg@transcript:v1#seg-0059", "segment_id": "seg-0059", "start": 2596.99, "end": 2654.49, "time_label": "43:16", "speaker": "SPEAKER_01", "excerpt": "So Mark Zuckerberg had his conflict with the Winklevoss twins. The Winklevoss twins, okay? And so the Winklevoss twins sued Mark Zuckerberg, claiming that Zuckerberg stole the idea for Facebook from them. 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Again, that is jackneil.com, backslash iTrust, or hit the first link in the description for an easy $100 bonus..." }, { "ref": "video:interview-ril8pssntzg@transcript:v1#seg-0062", "segment_id": "seg-0062", "start": 2752.09, "end": 2825.48, "time_label": "45:52", "speaker": "SPEAKER_01", "excerpt": "And the Pentagon had put all this money into the internet as a surveillance tool. They wanted to promote the internet and computers as a way to control people. But the problem is, Americans had just experienced the Viet..." }, { "ref": "video:interview-ril8pssntzg@transcript:v1#seg-0063", "segment_id": "seg-0063", "start": 2826.04, "end": 2861.4, "time_label": "47:06", "speaker": "SPEAKER_01", "excerpt": "And so whatever he created actually belonged as an IP to HP. So Steve Wozniak creates this open source computer. And then he goes to his superiors at HP and says, look, I'm working for you guys. You guys are giving me t..." }, { "ref": "video:interview-ril8pssntzg@transcript:v1#seg-0064", "segment_id": "seg-0064", "start": 2861.4, "end": 2871.68, "time_label": "47:41", "speaker": "SPEAKER_00", "excerpt": "And then he becomes a billionaire along with Bill Gates. So HP gave Steve Wozniak the ability to sell Mac for free. 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And he was trained by HP, meaning his engineering skills came from that environment. And he had access to all of HP's technology. And that's how he was able to construct a persona..." }, { "ref": "video:interview-ril8pssntzg@transcript:v1#seg-0066", "segment_id": "seg-0066", "start": 2943.1, "end": 2963.13, "time_label": "49:03", "speaker": "SPEAKER_00", "excerpt": "I think there's about 3,000 like individual billionaires publicly documented by Forbes. Like did we, like a hundred years ago, was that a thing? Right? Were all these individual billionaires that had these come from not..." }, { "ref": "video:interview-ril8pssntzg@transcript:v1#seg-0067", "segment_id": "seg-0067", "start": 2964.29, "end": 3029.26, "time_label": "49:24", "speaker": "SPEAKER_01", "excerpt": "I think this is a recent phenomenon. If you go back to the Gilded Age, these billionaires like John D. Rockefeller and Andrew Carnegie, what people don't recognize is that like when they died, if you actually look at th..." }, { "ref": "video:interview-ril8pssntzg@transcript:v1#seg-0068", "segment_id": "seg-0068", "start": 3030.12, "end": 3043.23, "time_label": "50:30", "speaker": "SPEAKER_01", "excerpt": "So they need to disguise the fact that they didn't actually have that much money, right? And the way they disguise that is by donating the money to charity and saying, oh, well, you know, I gave it all away before I die..." } ], "lens_points": [], "lens_points_detail": [] }, { "claim": "Jiang argues COVID vaccine acceptance showed science functioning like religion because most people accepted authority rather than questioning logic, mutation, and evidence.", "refs": [ "video:interview-ril8pssntzg@transcript:v1#seg-0069", "video:interview-ril8pssntzg@transcript:v1#seg-0070", "video:interview-ril8pssntzg@transcript:v1#seg-0071", "video:interview-ril8pssntzg@transcript:v1#seg-0072" ], "temporal_scope": "COVID-era diagnosis stated on 2026-04-15.", "topic_tags": [ "science-religion", "covid", "vaccines" ], "claim_type": "diagnosis", "confidence": "high", "refs_detail": [ { "ref": "video:interview-ril8pssntzg@transcript:v1#seg-0069", "segment_id": "seg-0069", "start": 3049.52, "end": 3070.17, "time_label": "50:49", "speaker": "SPEAKER_00", "excerpt": "I'll ask you, do you think science is the most worshiped religion on earth? 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Yeah." }, { "ref": "video:interview-ril8pssntzg@transcript:v1#seg-0074", "segment_id": "seg-0074", "start": 3217.72, "end": 3242.5, "time_label": "53:37", "speaker": "SPEAKER_01", "excerpt": "And after it was revealed that there might be some side effects to this vaccines, including myocarditis. Okay. Not strong evidence, but I'm saying there might be some side effects because whenever you introduce a new va..." }, { "ref": "video:interview-ril8pssntzg@transcript:v1#seg-0075", "segment_id": "seg-0075", "start": 3243.88, "end": 3244.58, "time_label": "54:03", "speaker": "SPEAKER_00", "excerpt": "Not many." }, { "ref": "video:interview-ril8pssntzg@transcript:v1#seg-0076", "segment_id": "seg-0076", "start": 3244.86, "end": 3276.29, "time_label": "54:04", "speaker": "SPEAKER_01", "excerpt": "And when, you know, CNN makes fun of Joe Rogan for promoting Ivor Merton, even though Ivor Merton was won the Nobel prize, how many people thought CNN was correct? I mean, like, like it's just astonishing how the vast m..." }, { "ref": "video:interview-ril8pssntzg@transcript:v1#seg-0077", "segment_id": "seg-0077", "start": 3277.09, "end": 3284.66, "time_label": "54:37", "speaker": "SPEAKER_00", "excerpt": "Do you think it's fair to say that the most popular religion is one that never feels like a religion?" }, { "ref": "video:interview-ril8pssntzg@transcript:v1#seg-0078", "segment_id": "seg-0078", "start": 3284.9, "end": 3314.78, "time_label": "54:44", "speaker": "SPEAKER_01", "excerpt": "I would say so, yeah. Science prides itself on being above religion, on being entirely focused on the truth. But truth can only be arrived at through debate, through questioning. Through exploration. 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So they..." }, { "ref": "video:interview-ril8pssntzg@transcript:v1#seg-0087", "segment_id": "seg-0087", "start": 3547.5, "end": 3571.36, "time_label": "59:07", "speaker": "SPEAKER_01", "excerpt": "Don't worry about geopolitics. Just worry about it. Don't worry about being a good person, being kind, open, generous to everyone around you. And you, you, you have made the world a better place. Um, you do matter. 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Do you think another lie is history is random?" }, { "ref": "video:interview-ril8pssntzg@transcript:v1#seg-0089", "segment_id": "seg-0089", "start": 3577.18, "end": 3641.54, "time_label": "59:37", "speaker": "SPEAKER_01", "excerpt": "So they don't say history is random. They say history is theological, meaning that history is moving towards a greater purpose and that we improve generation by generation, right? So do you look at our advances since th..." }, { "ref": "video:interview-ril8pssntzg@transcript:v1#seg-0090", "segment_id": "seg-0090", "start": 3641.76, "end": 3697.66, "time_label": "1:00:41", "speaker": "SPEAKER_01", "excerpt": "We're so much superior than every other civilization that's come before us. When I don't think that's actually true. 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So, um, the elites are actually obsessed with living forever. Um, and there are different reasons why this is the case. Uh, some have speculated that it's because they in their hearts know all the evil they've don..." }, { "ref": "video:interview-ril8pssntzg@transcript:v1#seg-0093", "segment_id": "seg-0093", "start": 3767.5, "end": 3828.75, "time_label": "1:02:47", "speaker": "SPEAKER_01", "excerpt": "think a hundred thousand dollars a year just to consult on how to, um, live a lifestyle that allows for maximum, uh, health, uh, in, in, in, in the longterm. Okay. So people like Peter Attia, you have people like Brian..." }, { "ref": "video:interview-ril8pssntzg@transcript:v1#seg-0094", "segment_id": "seg-0094", "start": 3828.85, "end": 3884.73, "time_label": "1:03:48", "speaker": "SPEAKER_01", "excerpt": "So they go online and they read the news. They are fascinated with this guy. They think about, think about him all the time. 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If you look at the history of memes, I think it was Richard Dawkins that had proposed like memetics in the first place. And Trump is the greatest meme of all time. And you know this because what..." }, { "ref": "video:interview-ril8pssntzg@transcript:v1#seg-0099", "segment_id": "seg-0099", "start": 4052.95, "end": 4074.06, "time_label": "1:07:32", "speaker": "SPEAKER_01", "excerpt": "Yes. He, he's a psychic demon, okay? And you feed a psychic demon through intense emotions. And there's so many intense emotions surrounding Donald Trump. People either hate him or love him. 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Something I found fascinating from our conversation yesterday when we'd had a chat was that your belief, that you have a belief that there isn't like one most powerful person in the world. Yeah. And that logics ou..." }, { "ref": "video:interview-ril8pssntzg@transcript:v1#seg-0109", "segment_id": "seg-0109", "start": 4334.17, "end": 4401.71, "time_label": "1:12:14", "speaker": "SPEAKER_01", "excerpt": "So, I mean, they say like, these secret societies are promoted by secret societies, right? So going back to the example, the Illuminati. Okay. So the Illuminati was founded at the end of the 18th century by Adam Weishau..." }, { "ref": "video:interview-ril8pssntzg@transcript:v1#seg-0110", "segment_id": "seg-0110", "start": 4403.19, "end": 4434.51, "time_label": "1:13:23", "speaker": "SPEAKER_01", "excerpt": "because if you're just this average Joe and you read about these guys, you're like, this is actually pretty cool. Yeah, I should join these guys. 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So the thing about Yale is when you're a poor kid and you get in a place like Yale, which is like, I mean, the height of elite power, okay? You're traumatized by the event. All my time at Yale, I felt like an impo..." }, { "ref": "video:interview-ril8pssntzg@transcript:v1#seg-0134", "segment_id": "seg-0134", "start": 5510.2, "end": 5571.05, "time_label": "1:31:50", "speaker": "SPEAKER_01", "excerpt": "It didn't matter if I didn't have any money. It didn't matter if I didn't have any connections. All that mattered was if I just did the best job possible, whatever I did, I'd be successful. And that was my understanding..." }, { "ref": "video:interview-ril8pssntzg@transcript:v1#seg-0135", "segment_id": "seg-0135", "start": 5571.39, "end": 5638.83, "time_label": "1:32:51", "speaker": "SPEAKER_01", "excerpt": "And then in 2008, I got a job building and managing China's first public school study abroad program. And I was successful. 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If you look at the history of memes, I think it was Richard Dawkins that had proposed like memetics in the first place. And Trump is the greatest meme of all time. And you know this because what..." }, { "ref": "video:interview-ril8pssntzg@transcript:v1#seg-0099", "segment_id": "seg-0099", "start": 4052.95, "end": 4074.06, "time_label": "1:07:32", "speaker": "SPEAKER_01", "excerpt": "Yes. He, he's a psychic demon, okay? And you feed a psychic demon through intense emotions. And there's so many intense emotions surrounding Donald Trump. People either hate him or love him. 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And he was trained by HP, meaning his engineering skills came from that environment. And he had access to all of HP's technology. And that's how he was able to construct a persona..." }, { "ref": "video:interview-ril8pssntzg@transcript:v1#seg-0066", "segment_id": "seg-0066", "start": 2943.1, "end": 2963.13, "time_label": "49:03", "speaker": "SPEAKER_00", "excerpt": "I think there's about 3,000 like individual billionaires publicly documented by Forbes. Like did we, like a hundred years ago, was that a thing? Right? Were all these individual billionaires that had these come from not..." }, { "ref": "video:interview-ril8pssntzg@transcript:v1#seg-0067", "segment_id": "seg-0067", "start": 2964.29, "end": 3029.26, "time_label": "49:24", "speaker": "SPEAKER_01", "excerpt": "I think this is a recent phenomenon. If you go back to the Gilded Age, these billionaires like John D. 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And the way they disguise that is by donating the money to charity and saying, oh, well, you know, I gave it all away before I die..." } ], "lens_points": [], "lens_points_detail": [] }, { "claim": "Jiang argues COVID vaccine acceptance showed science functioning like religion because most people accepted authority rather than questioning logic, mutation, and evidence.", "refs": [ "video:interview-ril8pssntzg@transcript:v1#seg-0069", "video:interview-ril8pssntzg@transcript:v1#seg-0070", "video:interview-ril8pssntzg@transcript:v1#seg-0071", "video:interview-ril8pssntzg@transcript:v1#seg-0072" ], "temporal_scope": "COVID-era diagnosis stated on 2026-04-15.", "topic_tags": [ "science-religion", "covid", "vaccines" ], "claim_type": "diagnosis", "confidence": "high", "refs_detail": [ { "ref": "video:interview-ril8pssntzg@transcript:v1#seg-0069", "segment_id": "seg-0069", "start": 3049.52, "end": 3070.17, "time_label": "50:49", "speaker": "SPEAKER_00", "excerpt": "I'll ask you, do you think science is the most worshiped religion on earth? 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Uh, because if you look at the origins of it, it's like, comes from magic, right?" }, { "ref": "video:interview-ril8pssntzg@transcript:v1#seg-0080", "segment_id": "seg-0080", "start": 3326.54, "end": 3392.34, "time_label": "55:26", "speaker": "SPEAKER_01", "excerpt": "Yeah. Um, look, I mean, clearly, that thing was a bioweapon. It was a bioweapon of some sort. Because in nature, viruses do not mutate that fast. 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Do you think another lie is history is random?" }, { "ref": "video:interview-ril8pssntzg@transcript:v1#seg-0089", "segment_id": "seg-0089", "start": 3577.18, "end": 3641.54, "time_label": "59:37", "speaker": "SPEAKER_01", "excerpt": "So they don't say history is random. They say history is theological, meaning that history is moving towards a greater purpose and that we improve generation by generation, right? So do you look at our advances since th..." }, { "ref": "video:interview-ril8pssntzg@transcript:v1#seg-0090", "segment_id": "seg-0090", "start": 3641.76, "end": 3697.66, "time_label": "1:00:41", "speaker": "SPEAKER_01", "excerpt": "We're so much superior than every other civilization that's come before us. When I don't think that's actually true. 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Is it all the one bloodline or is it like multiple bloodlines? Yeah," }, { "ref": "video:interview-ril8pssntzg@transcript:v1#seg-0103", "segment_id": "seg-0103", "start": 4106.83, "end": 4158.02, "time_label": "1:08:26", "speaker": "SPEAKER_01", "excerpt": "they say 13 bloodlines. So, I mean, I, I think it's a scheme theory where you're born into power and privilege. And you go to a place like Andover, Yale, Harvard Law School, and you meet people who are smarter than you..." }, { "ref": "video:interview-ril8pssntzg@transcript:v1#seg-0104", "segment_id": "seg-0104", "start": 4159.44, "end": 4171.26, "time_label": "1:09:19", "speaker": "SPEAKER_00", "excerpt": "That's a fascinating one. I'm sure you could look at the history of like these ancestry.coms and 23andMe's and I'm sure it's strange, but, because how else would you know? 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And the only reason you haven't gotten in trouble is because you're a CCP asset or a CIA asset or an MI6 asset. Professor Zhan..." }, { "ref": "video:interview-ril8pssntzg@transcript:v1#seg-0115", "segment_id": "seg-0115", "start": 4561.14, "end": 4633.32, "time_label": "1:16:01", "speaker": "SPEAKER_01", "excerpt": "Okay, sure. So let me respond to the question, how am I allowed to do what I do in China? And the reason is that I'm actually not part of the Chinese system. So the Chinese system is set up to control the behavior of Ch..." }, { "ref": "video:interview-ril8pssntzg@transcript:v1#seg-0116", "segment_id": "seg-0116", "start": 4633.68, "end": 4690.03, "time_label": "1:17:13", "speaker": "SPEAKER_01", "excerpt": "But it's a system designed for Chinese citizens. And why you do that is you're not interested in individual behavior. You're interested in collective behavior. 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So the thing about Yale is when you're a poor kid and you get in a place like Yale, which is like, I mean, the height of elite power, okay? You're traumatized by the event. All my time at Yale, I felt like an impo..." }, { "ref": "video:interview-ril8pssntzg@transcript:v1#seg-0134", "segment_id": "seg-0134", "start": 5510.2, "end": 5571.05, "time_label": "1:31:50", "speaker": "SPEAKER_01", "excerpt": "It didn't matter if I didn't have any money. It didn't matter if I didn't have any connections. All that mattered was if I just did the best job possible, whatever I did, I'd be successful. And that was my understanding..." }, { "ref": "video:interview-ril8pssntzg@transcript:v1#seg-0135", "segment_id": "seg-0135", "start": 5571.39, "end": 5638.83, "time_label": "1:32:51", "speaker": "SPEAKER_01", "excerpt": "And then in 2008, I got a job building and managing China's first public school study abroad program. And I was successful. 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I think Hermetic philosophy helps us best understand the world. And so I'll just go into the basic principles of Hermetic philosophy to start our discussion, OK? So the first idea or th..." }, { "ref": "video:interview-ril8pssntzg@transcript:v1#seg-0034", "segment_id": "seg-0034", "start": 1350.8, "end": 1424.505, "time_label": "22:30", "speaker": "SPEAKER_01", "excerpt": "Number four is the idea of correspondence, which is to say, that there are different dimensions, OK? An infinite set of the dimensions that range from the material to the divine, OK? So the body, the heart, the mind, th..." }, { "ref": "video:interview-ril8pssntzg@transcript:v1#seg-0035", "segment_id": "seg-0035", "start": 1424.505, "end": 1488.219, "time_label": "23:44", "speaker": "SPEAKER_01", "excerpt": "Then you have the law of generation, which is to say that when these opposites combine together, you create a new force, OK? So think of thesis, typhusis, synthesis, OK? 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Mark Zuckerberg." }, { "ref": "video:interview-ril8pssntzg@transcript:v1#seg-0058", "segment_id": "seg-0058", "start": 2595.45, "end": 2596.91, "time_label": "43:15", "speaker": "SPEAKER_00", "excerpt": "That's what I was going to ask you about, yeah." }, { "ref": "video:interview-ril8pssntzg@transcript:v1#seg-0059", "segment_id": "seg-0059", "start": 2596.99, "end": 2654.49, "time_label": "43:16", "speaker": "SPEAKER_01", "excerpt": "So Mark Zuckerberg had his conflict with the Winklevoss twins. The Winklevoss twins, okay? And so the Winklevoss twins sued Mark Zuckerberg, claiming that Zuckerberg stole the idea for Facebook from them. 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I guess what's the best piece of advice you've ever received?" }, { "ref": "video:interview-ril8pssntzg@transcript:v1#seg-0154", "segment_id": "seg-0154", "start": 6583.4, "end": 6657.11, "time_label": "1:49:43", "speaker": "SPEAKER_01", "excerpt": "Don't chase pussy. So I'll tell you the story where I was a young teacher. Aspiring journalist in Beijing. This is about the year 1999. And I had just graduated from Yale. This is the autumn. And a journalist friend cal..." }, { "ref": "video:interview-ril8pssntzg@transcript:v1#seg-0155", "segment_id": "seg-0155", "start": 6659.48, "end": 6737.75, "time_label": "1:50:59", "speaker": "SPEAKER_01", "excerpt": "Because first of all, he's a very attractive man who's, you know, had many, many relationships in the past. So the turning point in his life is he's married to a woman named Nan Talese. 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So that's what people..." } ] }, { "term": "Predictive History", "usages": [ "Jiang's YouTube channel and public identity for videos." ], "refs": [ "video:interview-ril8pssntzg@transcript:v1#seg-0161" ], "refs_detail": [ { "ref": "video:interview-ril8pssntzg@transcript:v1#seg-0161", "segment_id": "seg-0161", "start": 6890.23, "end": 6911.55, "time_label": "1:54:50", "speaker": "SPEAKER_01", "excerpt": "I happen to be everywhere now. So it's pretty easy to find me. But the best place is my YouTube channel, Predictive History. Right. You also have a sub -stack as well. Right. 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But the process of building the program left me traumatized because I spent my entire heart and..." }, { "ref": "video:interview-ril8pssntzg@transcript:v1#seg-0136", "segment_id": "seg-0136", "start": 5639.76, "end": 5706.8, "time_label": "1:33:59", "speaker": "SPEAKER_01", "excerpt": "So if you're able to articulate yourself clearly, if you're able to do math, well, you should be President of the United States. Whereas if you are not able to articulate clearly, then you should be a janitor, okay? So..." } ] } ], "chronology_notes": [ { "refs": [ "video:interview-ril8pssntzg@transcript:v1#seg-0001", "video:interview-ril8pssntzg@transcript:v1#seg-0002", "video:interview-ril8pssntzg@transcript:v1#seg-0003", "video:interview-ril8pssntzg@transcript:v1#seg-0004", "video:interview-ril8pssntzg@transcript:v1#seg-0005", "video:interview-ril8pssntzg@transcript:v1#seg-0006", "video:interview-ril8pssntzg@transcript:v1#seg-0007", "video:interview-ril8pssntzg@transcript:v1#seg-0008" ], "note": "On 2026-04-15 Jiang gives dated 2045 and 2060 future predictions rather than a timeless model.", "possible_update_to_prior_position": true, "confidence": "high", "refs_detail": [ { "ref": "video:interview-ril8pssntzg@transcript:v1#seg-0001", "segment_id": "seg-0001", "start": 0, "end": 7.78, "time_label": "0:00", "speaker": "SPEAKER_00", "excerpt": "Today's guest uses history to predict wars, elections, and the end of the world. 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Who do you think is Satoshi Nakamoto?" }, { "ref": "video:interview-ril8pssntzg@transcript:v1#seg-0004", "segment_id": "seg-0004", "start": 29.04, "end": 37.56, "time_label": "0:29", "speaker": "SPEAKER_01", "excerpt": "They say that it translates into sensual intelligence. And when you do game theory analysis, you look at all possibilities, you end up with a deep state. You end up with a CIA." }, { "ref": "video:interview-ril8pssntzg@transcript:v1#seg-0005", "segment_id": "seg-0005", "start": 37.78, "end": 47.2, "time_label": "0:37", "speaker": "SPEAKER_00", "excerpt": "Now a high school history teacher in China, he's predicted Trump winning the election, America's invasion of Venezuela, and recently, the war between Iran and the US." }, { "ref": "video:interview-ril8pssntzg@transcript:v1#seg-0006", "segment_id": "seg-0006", "start": 47.68, "end": 63.76, "time_label": "0:47", "speaker": "SPEAKER_01", "excerpt": "What can I do that makes me so distinct that I might be popular on social media? And my solution was, I'm going to make some stupid predictions. And if they aren't correct, I'm going to... 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Okay. So the distinction is you're saying it's kind of AI and tech versus traditional finance, but people have to understand that AI was a project of people on the transnational capital side originally." }, { "ref": "video:interview-ril8pssntzg@transcript:v1#seg-0018", "segment_id": "seg-0018", "start": 527.82, "end": 576.423, "time_label": "8:47", "speaker": "SPEAKER_01", "excerpt": "Right. Right. Right. Okay. So the distinctions aren't as clear as I make them out to be, right? Because let's just say you're a billionaire like Peter Thiel, you're going to play both sides, right? You're going to see h..." }, { "ref": "video:interview-ril8pssntzg@transcript:v1#seg-0019", "segment_id": "seg-0019", "start": 576.423, "end": 636.55, "time_label": "9:36", "speaker": "SPEAKER_01", "excerpt": "The religious Jews want to achieve. But the transnational capital wants to make Israel their new center of operations. But it's not limited to just finance and AI. 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Because if..." }, { "ref": "video:interview-ril8pssntzg@transcript:v1#seg-0032", "segment_id": "seg-0032", "start": 1251.67, "end": 1279.47, "time_label": "20:51", "speaker": "SPEAKER_00", "excerpt": "If you said yes, you're probably going to want to switch to High Level. 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I think Hermetic philosophy helps us best understand the world. And so I'll just go into the basic principles of Hermetic philosophy to start our discussion, OK? So the first idea or th..." }, { "ref": "video:interview-ril8pssntzg@transcript:v1#seg-0034", "segment_id": "seg-0034", "start": 1350.8, "end": 1424.505, "time_label": "22:30", "speaker": "SPEAKER_01", "excerpt": "Number four is the idea of correspondence, which is to say, that there are different dimensions, OK? An infinite set of the dimensions that range from the material to the divine, OK? So the body, the heart, the mind, th..." }, { "ref": "video:interview-ril8pssntzg@transcript:v1#seg-0035", "segment_id": "seg-0035", "start": 1424.505, "end": 1488.219, "time_label": "23:44", "speaker": "SPEAKER_01", "excerpt": "Then you have the law of generation, which is to say that when these opposites combine together, you create a new force, OK? So think of thesis, typhusis, synthesis, OK? And that's how the world, the universe functions...." }, { "ref": "video:interview-ril8pssntzg@transcript:v1#seg-0036", "segment_id": "seg-0036", "start": 1488.219, "end": 1549.566, "time_label": "24:48", "speaker": "SPEAKER_01", "excerpt": "What I believe is our time in this world is short and it's precious and we are eternal, but we have to make the most of our time here. And the Greeks have a word for this, eudaimonia, which is flourishing. So every day..." }, { "ref": "video:interview-ril8pssntzg@transcript:v1#seg-0037", "segment_id": "seg-0037", "start": 1549.566, "end": 1629.77, "time_label": "25:49", "speaker": "SPEAKER_01", "excerpt": "What happens to our mind is reflected throughout the universe. So if we are creative, the universe becomes creative itself. And so for me, I take this to mean that my role in this world is to use my imagination to inspi..." }, { "ref": "video:interview-ril8pssntzg@transcript:v1#seg-0038", "segment_id": "seg-0038", "start": 1629.77, "end": 1646.22, "time_label": "27:09", "speaker": "SPEAKER_01", "excerpt": "what is just what is moral if you are proud that everyone in the universe who's ever lived and whoever will ever live watches what you do and smiles at you i think that's a really fascinating philosophy" }, { "ref": "video:interview-ril8pssntzg@transcript:v1#seg-0039", "segment_id": "seg-0039", "start": 1646.64, "end": 1673.32, "time_label": "27:26", "speaker": "SPEAKER_00", "excerpt": "and a great takeaway um if you don't mind i do have a few questions that i think now that we've covered a timeline and kind of your view uh on all of it and your takeaway there are some takeaways that i have that i foun..." }, { "ref": "video:interview-ril8pssntzg@transcript:v1#seg-0040", "segment_id": "seg-0040", "start": 1673.32, "end": 1758.44, "time_label": "27:53", "speaker": "SPEAKER_01", "excerpt": "them believe in one god many gods or no god okay so i think that um we've had different societies where we tried either no god many gods or just one god and i think you we you get different societies so the greek were p..." } ], "lens_points": [], "lens_points_detail": [] }, { "refs": [ "video:interview-ril8pssntzg@transcript:v1#seg-0041", "video:interview-ril8pssntzg@transcript:v1#seg-0042", "video:interview-ril8pssntzg@transcript:v1#seg-0043", "video:interview-ril8pssntzg@transcript:v1#seg-0044", "video:interview-ril8pssntzg@transcript:v1#seg-0045", "video:interview-ril8pssntzg@transcript:v1#seg-0046", "video:interview-ril8pssntzg@transcript:v1#seg-0047", "video:interview-ril8pssntzg@transcript:v1#seg-0048" ], "note": "Jiang dates this religious-political interpretation to the 2026 interview; no direct prior-position update is supplied.", "possible_update_to_prior_position": true, "confidence": "high", "refs_detail": [ { "ref": "video:interview-ril8pssntzg@transcript:v1#seg-0041", "segment_id": "seg-0041", "start": 1758.44, "end": 1832.58, "time_label": "29:18", "speaker": "SPEAKER_01", "excerpt": "to ask the hard questions um one god is a recent phenomenon and it's led us to be the most energetic people in the world right so think about our accomplishments where we're able to build skyscrapers we're able to build..." }, { "ref": "video:interview-ril8pssntzg@transcript:v1#seg-0042", "segment_id": "seg-0042", "start": 1832.83, "end": 1892.6, "time_label": "30:32", "speaker": "SPEAKER_01", "excerpt": "that's the issue in china where i live where we never really had a god we had an emperor so but the idea that one person can become god um has led to a very cruel and unjust world um so i would say there are strengths a..." }, { "ref": "video:interview-ril8pssntzg@transcript:v1#seg-0043", "segment_id": "seg-0043", "start": 1892.6, "end": 1957.04, "time_label": "31:32", "speaker": "SPEAKER_01", "excerpt": "is that if you're a messenger of god it doesn't really matter if you die or not what matters is are you able to deliver the message properly and jesus was able to to do that so jesus is revered in the islamic tradition..." }, { "ref": "video:interview-ril8pssntzg@transcript:v1#seg-0044", "segment_id": "seg-0044", "start": 1957.04, "end": 2037.9, "time_label": "32:37", "speaker": "SPEAKER_01", "excerpt": "and which drives people into this tremendous emotional angst you have a lot of war started over uh over this this issue um right so um my understanding is that if you look at the historical evidence jesus was probably c..." }, { "ref": "video:interview-ril8pssntzg@transcript:v1#seg-0045", "segment_id": "seg-0045", "start": 2037.9, "end": 2101.14, "time_label": "33:57", "speaker": "SPEAKER_01", "excerpt": "of his sayings and it and people believe some people believe not everyone but some people believe it actually precedes the gospel of mark which was about 70 um and if you just read the gospel of thomas i think it actual..." }, { "ref": "video:interview-ril8pssntzg@transcript:v1#seg-0046", "segment_id": "seg-0046", "start": 2101.14, "end": 2157.05, "time_label": "35:01", "speaker": "SPEAKER_01", "excerpt": "a very strict hierarchy and to say that uh the person with all the money has no authority over me uh the person with all the power has no authority over me because i'm a divine soul uh that could be very upsetting so we..." }, { "ref": "video:interview-ril8pssntzg@transcript:v1#seg-0047", "segment_id": "seg-0047", "start": 2157.05, "end": 2170.58, "time_label": "35:57", "speaker": "SPEAKER_01", "excerpt": "liberating slaves psychologically and emotionally and giving tremendous comfort to them but this made them less productive in which case you know you're causing economic damage you're destroying property" }, { "ref": "video:interview-ril8pssntzg@transcript:v1#seg-0048", "segment_id": "seg-0048", "start": 2172.25, "end": 2185.19, "time_label": "36:12", "speaker": "SPEAKER_00", "excerpt": "so he was considered uh uh basically a rebel you said paul was a spy that used jesus as a political symbol do you think the cia uses money to destroy the slaves or did he use the money for his own cause" } ], "lens_points": [], "lens_points_detail": [] }, { "refs": [ "video:interview-ril8pssntzg@transcript:v1#seg-0049", "video:interview-ril8pssntzg@transcript:v1#seg-0050", "video:interview-ril8pssntzg@transcript:v1#seg-0051", "video:interview-ril8pssntzg@transcript:v1#seg-0052", "video:interview-ril8pssntzg@transcript:v1#seg-0053", "video:interview-ril8pssntzg@transcript:v1#seg-0054", "video:interview-ril8pssntzg@transcript:v1#seg-0055", "video:interview-ril8pssntzg@transcript:v1#seg-0056" ], "note": "These are speculative claims dated 2026-04-15; Jiang does not cite confidential evidence here.", "possible_update_to_prior_position": true, "confidence": "high", "refs_detail": [ { "ref": "video:interview-ril8pssntzg@transcript:v1#seg-0049", "segment_id": "seg-0049", "start": 2185.19, "end": 2246.11, "time_label": "36:25", "speaker": "SPEAKER_01", "excerpt": "control to create terrorists um look i think if you just look at the history of the middle east a lot of these islamic extremists were creation of empire right so let's go back to 1950s and the spreading of um wahhabism..." }, { "ref": "video:interview-ril8pssntzg@transcript:v1#seg-0050", "segment_id": "seg-0050", "start": 2246.11, "end": 2311.96, "time_label": "37:26", "speaker": "SPEAKER_01", "excerpt": "the soviet union which has always been problematic for the soviet union right there were that many muslims in america so why wouldn't you encourage fanatical violent extremism right that's number one that so that that w..." }, { "ref": "video:interview-ril8pssntzg@transcript:v1#seg-0051", "segment_id": "seg-0051", "start": 2311.96, "end": 2384.38, "time_label": "38:31", "speaker": "SPEAKER_01", "excerpt": "socialism right um and um the third thing is that islamic extremism destabilizes the middle east we've seen this play out over and over again and so how does this instability help america and britain because it stabiliz..." }, { "ref": "video:interview-ril8pssntzg@transcript:v1#seg-0052", "segment_id": "seg-0052", "start": 2384.38, "end": 2446.6, "time_label": "39:44", "speaker": "SPEAKER_01", "excerpt": "become Mujahideen to fight the Soviets and so the CIA financed all this who do you think is Satoshi Nakamoto well I mean they say that it translates into sensual intelligence and the story makes no sense right because w..." }, { "ref": "video:interview-ril8pssntzg@transcript:v1#seg-0053", "segment_id": "seg-0053", "start": 2446.6, "end": 2506.57, "time_label": "40:46", "speaker": "SPEAKER_01", "excerpt": "game theory analysis, you look at all possibilities, you end up with a deep state, the American deep state. You end up with the CIA. So the first question, who would have the expertise and the technology to create the b..." }, { "ref": "video:interview-ril8pssntzg@transcript:v1#seg-0054", "segment_id": "seg-0054", "start": 2506.85, "end": 2577.44, "time_label": "41:46", "speaker": "SPEAKER_01", "excerpt": "It is a government within a government, right? It is basically outside of all political control. But it needs a mechanism to finance its operations. It basically needs a monitoring operation. And blockchain is a great m..." }, { "ref": "video:interview-ril8pssntzg@transcript:v1#seg-0055", "segment_id": "seg-0055", "start": 2577.68, "end": 2581.86, "time_label": "42:57", "speaker": "SPEAKER_01", "excerpt": "I want to know where the databases are, where the servers are physically." }, { "ref": "video:interview-ril8pssntzg@transcript:v1#seg-0056", "segment_id": "seg-0056", "start": 2585.49, "end": 2590.87, "time_label": "43:05", "speaker": "SPEAKER_00", "excerpt": "It's interesting too that it's designed like a religion. Yeah. Hmm." } ], "lens_points": [], "lens_points_detail": [] }, { "refs": [ "video:interview-ril8pssntzg@transcript:v1#seg-0057", "video:interview-ril8pssntzg@transcript:v1#seg-0058", "video:interview-ril8pssntzg@transcript:v1#seg-0059", "video:interview-ril8pssntzg@transcript:v1#seg-0060", "video:interview-ril8pssntzg@transcript:v1#seg-0061", "video:interview-ril8pssntzg@transcript:v1#seg-0062", "video:interview-ril8pssntzg@transcript:v1#seg-0063", "video:interview-ril8pssntzg@transcript:v1#seg-0064" ], "note": "Jiang anchors this model in the 1970s credibility crisis while speaking in 2026.", "possible_update_to_prior_position": true, "confidence": "high", "refs_detail": [ { "ref": "video:interview-ril8pssntzg@transcript:v1#seg-0057", "segment_id": "seg-0057", "start": 2591.47, "end": 2595.31, "time_label": "43:11", "speaker": "SPEAKER_01", "excerpt": "I'll tell you something else, okay? Mark Zuckerberg." }, { "ref": "video:interview-ril8pssntzg@transcript:v1#seg-0058", "segment_id": "seg-0058", "start": 2595.45, "end": 2596.91, "time_label": "43:15", "speaker": "SPEAKER_00", "excerpt": "That's what I was going to ask you about, yeah." }, { "ref": "video:interview-ril8pssntzg@transcript:v1#seg-0059", "segment_id": "seg-0059", "start": 2596.99, "end": 2654.49, "time_label": "43:16", "speaker": "SPEAKER_01", "excerpt": "So Mark Zuckerberg had his conflict with the Winklevoss twins. The Winklevoss twins, okay? And so the Winklevoss twins sued Mark Zuckerberg, claiming that Zuckerberg stole the idea for Facebook from them. And this went..." }, { "ref": "video:interview-ril8pssntzg@transcript:v1#seg-0060", "segment_id": "seg-0060", "start": 2654.87, "end": 2708.11, "time_label": "44:14", "speaker": "SPEAKER_00", "excerpt": "Hey, really quick. Do you have a 401k, a Roth IRA, or happen to have a lot of money in crypto? Because you're definitely going to want to hear about this. See, the biggest supporters of this podcast right now are the gu..." }, { "ref": "video:interview-ril8pssntzg@transcript:v1#seg-0061", "segment_id": "seg-0061", "start": 2708.45, "end": 2751.31, "time_label": "45:08", "speaker": "SPEAKER_00", "excerpt": "So if you guys want to get access, just go to jackneil.com, backslash iTrust, or scan the QR code on screen. Again, that is jackneil.com, backslash iTrust, or hit the first link in the description for an easy $100 bonus..." }, { "ref": "video:interview-ril8pssntzg@transcript:v1#seg-0062", "segment_id": "seg-0062", "start": 2752.09, "end": 2825.48, "time_label": "45:52", "speaker": "SPEAKER_01", "excerpt": "And the Pentagon had put all this money into the internet as a surveillance tool. They wanted to promote the internet and computers as a way to control people. But the problem is, Americans had just experienced the Viet..." }, { "ref": "video:interview-ril8pssntzg@transcript:v1#seg-0063", "segment_id": "seg-0063", "start": 2826.04, "end": 2861.4, "time_label": "47:06", "speaker": "SPEAKER_01", "excerpt": "And so whatever he created actually belonged as an IP to HP. So Steve Wozniak creates this open source computer. And then he goes to his superiors at HP and says, look, I'm working for you guys. You guys are giving me t..." }, { "ref": "video:interview-ril8pssntzg@transcript:v1#seg-0064", "segment_id": "seg-0064", "start": 2861.4, "end": 2871.68, "time_label": "47:41", "speaker": "SPEAKER_00", "excerpt": "And then he becomes a billionaire along with Bill Gates. So HP gave Steve Wozniak the ability to sell Mac for free. Okay." } ], "lens_points": [], "lens_points_detail": [] }, { "refs": [ "video:interview-ril8pssntzg@transcript:v1#seg-0065", "video:interview-ril8pssntzg@transcript:v1#seg-0066", "video:interview-ril8pssntzg@transcript:v1#seg-0067", "video:interview-ril8pssntzg@transcript:v1#seg-0068", "video:interview-ril8pssntzg@transcript:v1#seg-0069", "video:interview-ril8pssntzg@transcript:v1#seg-0070", "video:interview-ril8pssntzg@transcript:v1#seg-0071", "video:interview-ril8pssntzg@transcript:v1#seg-0072" ], "note": "Jiang refers back to COVID-era vaccine politics from a 2026 interview vantage.", "possible_update_to_prior_position": true, "confidence": "high", "refs_detail": [ { "ref": "video:interview-ril8pssntzg@transcript:v1#seg-0065", "segment_id": "seg-0065", "start": 2871.74, "end": 2942.32, "time_label": "47:51", "speaker": "SPEAKER_01", "excerpt": "So Steve Wozniak was an employee of HP. And he was trained by HP, meaning his engineering skills came from that environment. 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Rockefeller and Andrew Carnegie, what people don't recognize is that like when they died, if you actually look at th..." }, { "ref": "video:interview-ril8pssntzg@transcript:v1#seg-0068", "segment_id": "seg-0068", "start": 3030.12, "end": 3043.23, "time_label": "50:30", "speaker": "SPEAKER_01", "excerpt": "So they need to disguise the fact that they didn't actually have that much money, right? And the way they disguise that is by donating the money to charity and saying, oh, well, you know, I gave it all away before I die..." }, { "ref": "video:interview-ril8pssntzg@transcript:v1#seg-0069", "segment_id": "seg-0069", "start": 3049.52, "end": 3070.17, "time_label": "50:49", "speaker": "SPEAKER_00", "excerpt": "I'll ask you, do you think science is the most worshiped religion on earth? This is a thought I had watching your videos is what happens when an entire group of people worships one religion is it never feels like a reli..." }, { "ref": "video:interview-ril8pssntzg@transcript:v1#seg-0070", "segment_id": "seg-0070", "start": 3071.34, "end": 3138.57, "time_label": "51:11", "speaker": "SPEAKER_01", "excerpt": "Look, let's look at COVID, okay? So COVID, you have this virus going around. It was mutating very, very fast. And, um, then they, in like, I think less than a year, right? Eight, nine months, they introduced the vaccine..." }, { "ref": "video:interview-ril8pssntzg@transcript:v1#seg-0071", "segment_id": "seg-0071", "start": 3138.81, "end": 3212.68, "time_label": "52:18", "speaker": "SPEAKER_01", "excerpt": "When you have a vaccine, the vaccine is, a fortification against the virus. But if the virus is shifting, what the virus will do is develop strategies to evade the fortification, right? Because it can shift. Your fortif..." }, { "ref": "video:interview-ril8pssntzg@transcript:v1#seg-0072", "segment_id": "seg-0072", "start": 3211.22, "end": 3212.68, "time_label": "53:31", "speaker": "SPEAKER_01", "excerpt": "" } ], "lens_points": [], "lens_points_detail": [] }, { "refs": [ "video:interview-ril8pssntzg@transcript:v1#seg-0073", "video:interview-ril8pssntzg@transcript:v1#seg-0074", "video:interview-ril8pssntzg@transcript:v1#seg-0075", "video:interview-ril8pssntzg@transcript:v1#seg-0076", "video:interview-ril8pssntzg@transcript:v1#seg-0077", "video:interview-ril8pssntzg@transcript:v1#seg-0078", "video:interview-ril8pssntzg@transcript:v1#seg-0079", "video:interview-ril8pssntzg@transcript:v1#seg-0080" ], "note": "The COVID claims are retrospective claims made from 2026, not contemporary 2020-2021 notes.", "possible_update_to_prior_position": true, "confidence": "high", "refs_detail": [ { "ref": "video:interview-ril8pssntzg@transcript:v1#seg-0073", "segment_id": "seg-0073", "start": 3216.6, "end": 3217.4, "time_label": "53:36", "speaker": "SPEAKER_00", "excerpt": "20%. Yeah." }, { "ref": "video:interview-ril8pssntzg@transcript:v1#seg-0074", "segment_id": "seg-0074", "start": 3217.72, "end": 3242.5, "time_label": "53:37", "speaker": "SPEAKER_01", "excerpt": "And after it was revealed that there might be some side effects to this vaccines, including myocarditis. Okay. Not strong evidence, but I'm saying there might be some side effects because whenever you introduce a new va..." }, { "ref": "video:interview-ril8pssntzg@transcript:v1#seg-0075", "segment_id": "seg-0075", "start": 3243.88, "end": 3244.58, "time_label": "54:03", "speaker": "SPEAKER_00", "excerpt": "Not many." }, { "ref": "video:interview-ril8pssntzg@transcript:v1#seg-0076", "segment_id": "seg-0076", "start": 3244.86, "end": 3276.29, "time_label": "54:04", "speaker": "SPEAKER_01", "excerpt": "And when, you know, CNN makes fun of Joe Rogan for promoting Ivor Merton, even though Ivor Merton was won the Nobel prize, how many people thought CNN was correct? I mean, like, like it's just astonishing how the vast m..." }, { "ref": "video:interview-ril8pssntzg@transcript:v1#seg-0077", "segment_id": "seg-0077", "start": 3277.09, "end": 3284.66, "time_label": "54:37", "speaker": "SPEAKER_00", "excerpt": "Do you think it's fair to say that the most popular religion is one that never feels like a religion?" }, { "ref": "video:interview-ril8pssntzg@transcript:v1#seg-0078", "segment_id": "seg-0078", "start": 3284.9, "end": 3314.78, "time_label": "54:44", "speaker": "SPEAKER_01", "excerpt": "I would say so, yeah. Science prides itself on being above religion, on being entirely focused on the truth. But truth can only be arrived at through debate, through questioning. Through exploration. How much debate hap..." }, { "ref": "video:interview-ril8pssntzg@transcript:v1#seg-0079", "segment_id": "seg-0079", "start": 3315.65, "end": 3325.25, "time_label": "55:15", "speaker": "SPEAKER_00", "excerpt": "Yeah, it's an interesting one. Uh, because if you look at the origins of it, it's like, comes from magic, right?" }, { "ref": "video:interview-ril8pssntzg@transcript:v1#seg-0080", "segment_id": "seg-0080", "start": 3326.54, "end": 3392.34, "time_label": "55:26", "speaker": "SPEAKER_01", "excerpt": "Yeah. Um, look, I mean, clearly, that thing was a bioweapon. It was a bioweapon of some sort. Because in nature, viruses do not mutate that fast. 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And, and, and then the world will be perfect. Yes." }, { "ref": "video:interview-ril8pssntzg@transcript:v1#seg-0084", "segment_id": "seg-0084", "start": 3423.76, "end": 3427.64, "time_label": "57:03", "speaker": "SPEAKER_00", "excerpt": "What do you think are the three biggest lies humans have been told? Um," }, { "ref": "video:interview-ril8pssntzg@transcript:v1#seg-0085", "segment_id": "seg-0085", "start": 3429.68, "end": 3485.74, "time_label": "57:09", "speaker": "SPEAKER_01", "excerpt": "I think the three biggest lies are death is the final reckoning. Whereas I think death is actually the beginning. I think that, um, if you look at secret societies, the way they initiate you into the society is through..." }, { "ref": "video:interview-ril8pssntzg@transcript:v1#seg-0086", "segment_id": "seg-0086", "start": 3485.86, "end": 3547.36, "time_label": "58:05", "speaker": "SPEAKER_01", "excerpt": "Don't be afraid of making mistakes. It's all part of the growing process. So I think death is one of the greatest lies. And it's, it's a very destructive lie where for whatever reason, everyone's afraid to die. So they..." }, { "ref": "video:interview-ril8pssntzg@transcript:v1#seg-0087", "segment_id": "seg-0087", "start": 3547.5, "end": 3571.36, "time_label": "59:07", "speaker": "SPEAKER_01", "excerpt": "Don't worry about geopolitics. Just worry about it. Don't worry about being a good person, being kind, open, generous to everyone around you. And you, you, you have made the world a better place. Um, you do matter. And..." }, { "ref": "video:interview-ril8pssntzg@transcript:v1#seg-0088", "segment_id": "seg-0088", "start": 3571.72, "end": 3575.64, "time_label": "59:31", "speaker": "SPEAKER_00", "excerpt": "I like those a lot. Do you think another lie is history is random?" } ], "lens_points": [], "lens_points_detail": [] }, { "refs": [ "video:interview-ril8pssntzg@transcript:v1#seg-0089", "video:interview-ril8pssntzg@transcript:v1#seg-0090", "video:interview-ril8pssntzg@transcript:v1#seg-0091", "video:interview-ril8pssntzg@transcript:v1#seg-0092", "video:interview-ril8pssntzg@transcript:v1#seg-0093", "video:interview-ril8pssntzg@transcript:v1#seg-0094", "video:interview-ril8pssntzg@transcript:v1#seg-0095", "video:interview-ril8pssntzg@transcript:v1#seg-0096" ], "note": "The Trump longevity model is dated to the second Trump presidency context implied in 2026.", "possible_update_to_prior_position": true, "confidence": "high", "refs_detail": [ { "ref": "video:interview-ril8pssntzg@transcript:v1#seg-0089", "segment_id": "seg-0089", "start": 3577.18, "end": 3641.54, "time_label": "59:37", "speaker": "SPEAKER_01", "excerpt": "So they don't say history is random. 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And my question..." }, { "ref": "video:interview-ril8pssntzg@transcript:v1#seg-0095", "segment_id": "seg-0095", "start": 3884.73, "end": 3946.08, "time_label": "1:04:44", "speaker": "SPEAKER_01", "excerpt": "It's like literally like any journalist in Washington DC could do this. You can get his phone number. And he's the president of the United States and call him up and he'll tell you, you know, his thinking and all that...." }, { "ref": "video:interview-ril8pssntzg@transcript:v1#seg-0096", "segment_id": "seg-0096", "start": 3946.08, "end": 4015.06, "time_label": "1:05:46", "speaker": "SPEAKER_01", "excerpt": "thinking about Donald Trump all the time, by giving him our psychic attention, are we basically manifesting God into Donald Trump so that his consciousness becomes eternal, locked in? Because we make it eternal. Because..." } ], "lens_points": [], "lens_points_detail": [] }, { "refs": [ "video:interview-ril8pssntzg@transcript:v1#seg-0097", "video:interview-ril8pssntzg@transcript:v1#seg-0098", "video:interview-ril8pssntzg@transcript:v1#seg-0099", "video:interview-ril8pssntzg@transcript:v1#seg-0100", "video:interview-ril8pssntzg@transcript:v1#seg-0101", "video:interview-ril8pssntzg@transcript:v1#seg-0102", "video:interview-ril8pssntzg@transcript:v1#seg-0103", "video:interview-ril8pssntzg@transcript:v1#seg-0104" ], "note": "The Trump-as-meme and bloodline claims are presented as 2026 speculation, not verified evidence.", "possible_update_to_prior_position": true, "confidence": "high", "refs_detail": [ { "ref": "video:interview-ril8pssntzg@transcript:v1#seg-0097", "segment_id": "seg-0097", "start": 4015.06, "end": 4024.22, "time_label": "1:06:55", "speaker": "SPEAKER_01", "excerpt": "able to implant yourself in the consciousness of so many people that their consciousness creates a reality in which you can inhabit forever." }, { "ref": "video:interview-ril8pssntzg@transcript:v1#seg-0098", "segment_id": "seg-0098", "start": 4025.46, "end": 4052.57, "time_label": "1:07:05", "speaker": "SPEAKER_00", "excerpt": "It's really fascinating. 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I'm gonna make my own YouTube channel and just speak my heart, basically." }, { "ref": "video:interview-ril8pssntzg@transcript:v1#seg-0132", "segment_id": "seg-0132", "start": 5427.14, "end": 5450.72, "time_label": "1:30:27", "speaker": "SPEAKER_00", "excerpt": "Do you think the reason you're able to nail some of these predictions is because you went into Yale as a poor kid and just saw how these rich, like elite, that type of consciousness, that group identity, like how they b..." }, { "ref": "video:interview-ril8pssntzg@transcript:v1#seg-0133", "segment_id": "seg-0133", "start": 5451.24, "end": 5509.96, "time_label": "1:30:51", "speaker": "SPEAKER_01", "excerpt": "Okay. So the thing about Yale is when you're a poor kid and you get in a place like Yale, which is like, I mean, the height of elite power, okay? You're traumatized by the event. All my time at Yale, I felt like an impo..." }, { "ref": "video:interview-ril8pssntzg@transcript:v1#seg-0134", "segment_id": "seg-0134", "start": 5510.2, "end": 5571.05, "time_label": "1:31:50", "speaker": "SPEAKER_01", "excerpt": "It didn't matter if I didn't have any money. It didn't matter if I didn't have any connections. All that mattered was if I just did the best job possible, whatever I did, I'd be successful. And that was my understanding..." }, { "ref": "video:interview-ril8pssntzg@transcript:v1#seg-0135", "segment_id": "seg-0135", "start": 5571.39, "end": 5638.83, "time_label": "1:32:51", "speaker": "SPEAKER_01", "excerpt": "And then in 2008, I got a job building and managing China's first public school study abroad program. And I was successful. 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But it was like as though before I..." }, { "ref": "video:interview-ril8pssntzg@transcript:v1#seg-0150", "segment_id": "seg-0150", "start": 6438.51, "end": 6462.72, "time_label": "1:47:18", "speaker": "SPEAKER_00", "excerpt": "Professor Xiong. You've spent your life studying how powerful people enslave the weak. You know how war, religion, and debt are used to create fear and give them control. If all your lectures were deleted. Every book. E..." }, { "ref": "video:interview-ril8pssntzg@transcript:v1#seg-0151", "segment_id": "seg-0151", "start": 6464.33, "end": 6538.74, "time_label": "1:47:44", "speaker": "SPEAKER_01", "excerpt": "Um... Look. If tomorrow for whatever reason. All my lectures were deleted. It wouldn't change anything. It wouldn't matter. Because I feel as though I've ignited a spark in a lot of people. 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So it's amazing the impact I've had already...." } ], "lens_points": [], "lens_points_detail": [] }, { "refs": [ "video:interview-ril8pssntzg@transcript:v1#seg-0153", "video:interview-ril8pssntzg@transcript:v1#seg-0154", "video:interview-ril8pssntzg@transcript:v1#seg-0155", "video:interview-ril8pssntzg@transcript:v1#seg-0156", "video:interview-ril8pssntzg@transcript:v1#seg-0157", "video:interview-ril8pssntzg@transcript:v1#seg-0158", "video:interview-ril8pssntzg@transcript:v1#seg-0159", "video:interview-ril8pssntzg@transcript:v1#seg-0160" ], "note": "Jiang dates the Talese encounter to autumn 1999 after Yale and gives the 2026 book recommendation at interview close.", "possible_update_to_prior_position": true, "confidence": "high", "refs_detail": [ { "ref": "video:interview-ril8pssntzg@transcript:v1#seg-0153", "segment_id": "seg-0153", "start": 6573.06, "end": 6580.06, "time_label": "1:49:33", "speaker": "SPEAKER_00", "excerpt": "Hmm. I guess what's the best piece of advice you've ever received?" }, { "ref": "video:interview-ril8pssntzg@transcript:v1#seg-0154", "segment_id": "seg-0154", "start": 6583.4, "end": 6657.11, "time_label": "1:49:43", "speaker": "SPEAKER_01", "excerpt": "Don't chase pussy. So I'll tell you the story where I was a young teacher. Aspiring journalist in Beijing. This is about the year 1999. And I had just graduated from Yale. This is the autumn. And a journalist friend cal..." }, { "ref": "video:interview-ril8pssntzg@transcript:v1#seg-0155", "segment_id": "seg-0155", "start": 6659.48, "end": 6737.75, "time_label": "1:50:59", "speaker": "SPEAKER_01", "excerpt": "Because first of all, he's a very attractive man who's, you know, had many, many relationships in the past. So the turning point in his life is he's married to a woman named Nan Talese. And she is a very famous editor a..." }, { "ref": "video:interview-ril8pssntzg@transcript:v1#seg-0156", "segment_id": "seg-0156", "start": 6737.75, "end": 6785.46, "time_label": "1:52:17", "speaker": "SPEAKER_01", "excerpt": "is that his wife, Nan Talese, would find out about this because every Sunday she'd read the New York Times. And there's an article about him having an orgy in California. And that sort of ruined their marriage, as you c..." }, { "ref": "video:interview-ril8pssntzg@transcript:v1#seg-0157", "segment_id": "seg-0157", "start": 6792.06, "end": 6800.15, "time_label": "1:53:12", "speaker": "SPEAKER_00", "excerpt": "And then I guess I'll just add this at the end. If you could recommend one book to everyone, what would it be?" }, { "ref": "video:interview-ril8pssntzg@transcript:v1#seg-0158", "segment_id": "seg-0158", "start": 6800.95, "end": 6872.45, "time_label": "1:53:20", "speaker": "SPEAKER_01", "excerpt": "Well, I mean, Divine Comedy is the greatest book ever written. It is literally a word from God. So Dante was channeling the universe when he wrote that. So that's the one book that everyone must read. But it's really ha..." }, { "ref": "video:interview-ril8pssntzg@transcript:v1#seg-0159", "segment_id": "seg-0159", "start": 6872.59, "end": 6875.77, "time_label": "1:54:32", "speaker": "SPEAKER_01", "excerpt": "And it just forever transforms you. So The Iliad." }, { "ref": "video:interview-ril8pssntzg@transcript:v1#seg-0160", "segment_id": "seg-0160", "start": 6877.4, "end": 6889.04, "time_label": "1:54:37", "speaker": "SPEAKER_00", "excerpt": "Beautiful. Well, everyone, this has been your guest, Professor Zhang. This is the Jack Nail Podcast. Where can people find you?" } ], "lens_points": [], "lens_points_detail": [] }, { "refs": [ "video:interview-ril8pssntzg@transcript:v1#seg-0161", "video:interview-ril8pssntzg@transcript:v1#seg-0162", "video:interview-ril8pssntzg@transcript:v1#seg-0163" ], "note": "The public links and channel identity are current as of 2026-04-15.", "possible_update_to_prior_position": true, "confidence": "high", "refs_detail": [ { "ref": "video:interview-ril8pssntzg@transcript:v1#seg-0161", "segment_id": "seg-0161", "start": 6890.23, "end": 6911.55, "time_label": "1:54:50", "speaker": "SPEAKER_01", "excerpt": "I happen to be everywhere now. So it's pretty easy to find me. But the best place is my YouTube channel, Predictive History. Right. You also have a sub -stack as well. Right. So if you're interested in geopolitics, beca..." }, { "ref": "video:interview-ril8pssntzg@transcript:v1#seg-0162", "segment_id": "seg-0162", "start": 6912.59, "end": 6914.59, "time_label": "1:55:12", "speaker": "SPEAKER_00", "excerpt": "Awesome. 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So seriously, if you want to stop paying for eight different software subscriptions to run your business, just go to jackneil.com backslash High Le..." } ], "lens_points": [], "lens_points_detail": [] }, { "refs": [ "video:interview-ril8pssntzg@transcript:v1#seg-0049", "video:interview-ril8pssntzg@transcript:v1#seg-0050", "video:interview-ril8pssntzg@transcript:v1#seg-0051", "video:interview-ril8pssntzg@transcript:v1#seg-0052", "video:interview-ril8pssntzg@transcript:v1#seg-0053", "video:interview-ril8pssntzg@transcript:v1#seg-0054", "video:interview-ril8pssntzg@transcript:v1#seg-0055", "video:interview-ril8pssntzg@transcript:v1#seg-0056" ], "note": "Several claims in this packet are explicitly speculative or conspiratorial in Jiang's framing; preserve attribution to this interview rather than promoting them as established fact.", "refs_detail": [ { "ref": "video:interview-ril8pssntzg@transcript:v1#seg-0049", "segment_id": "seg-0049", "start": 2185.19, "end": 2246.11, "time_label": "36:25", "speaker": "SPEAKER_01", "excerpt": "control to create terrorists um look i think if you just look at the history of the middle east a lot of these islamic extremists were creation of empire right so let's go back to 1950s and the spreading of um wahhabism..." }, { "ref": "video:interview-ril8pssntzg@transcript:v1#seg-0050", "segment_id": "seg-0050", "start": 2246.11, "end": 2311.96, "time_label": "37:26", "speaker": "SPEAKER_01", "excerpt": "the soviet union which has always been problematic for the soviet union right there were that many muslims in america so why wouldn't you encourage fanatical violent extremism right that's number one that so that that w..." }, { "ref": "video:interview-ril8pssntzg@transcript:v1#seg-0051", "segment_id": "seg-0051", "start": 2311.96, "end": 2384.38, "time_label": "38:31", "speaker": "SPEAKER_01", "excerpt": "socialism right um and um the third thing is that islamic extremism destabilizes the middle east we've seen this play out over and over again and so how does this instability help america and britain because it stabiliz..." }, { "ref": "video:interview-ril8pssntzg@transcript:v1#seg-0052", "segment_id": "seg-0052", "start": 2384.38, "end": 2446.6, "time_label": "39:44", "speaker": "SPEAKER_01", "excerpt": "become Mujahideen to fight the Soviets and so the CIA financed all this who do you think is Satoshi Nakamoto well I mean they say that it translates into sensual intelligence and the story makes no sense right because w..." }, { "ref": "video:interview-ril8pssntzg@transcript:v1#seg-0053", "segment_id": "seg-0053", "start": 2446.6, "end": 2506.57, "time_label": "40:46", "speaker": "SPEAKER_01", "excerpt": "game theory analysis, you look at all possibilities, you end up with a deep state, the American deep state. 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