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Building a family one can love is more important and happier than building an empire or becoming the most famous person in the world.
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Fame
A contemporary Achilles would more plausibly try to become an Olympian athlete than a soldier because his deeper desire is to stand out, be admired, and become famous, not simply to fight wars.
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A contemporary Achilles would more plausibly try to become an Olympian athlete than a soldier because his deeper desire is to stand out, be admired, and become famous, not simply to fight wars.
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Students must abandon false material reality, including money, power, sex, and fame, and focus on embracing the great books.
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He says he does not care primarily about online fame or appreciation; the animating questions are whether he is improving, being creative, and contributing to human progress.
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"Okay, so Achilles responds and says, Odysseus, I'm dead now. So now I can look at my life in its entirety. I can now,..."
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"It will give you much more happiness, than building an empire, than being the most famous person in the world. And this story, this..."
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"He's always testing boundaries. He has a very vivid imagination. And the last question is, imagine Achilles today. What would he be doing, okay?..."
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"...this material reality that is false. Okay? Abandon money, power, sex, fame, and focus on embracing the great books. And when you do that,..."
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"For example, I did stand -up comedy for a time. I did skydiving. I did parkour. So I am constantly in the process of..."
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"Am I being creative? Am I contributing to the progress of humanity? Is that, or is that, are you making that animate me? I..."
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"...time when I can focus on a mission and ignore the fame, the wealth, the status. Are you happy? I'm very happy with my..."
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"...spirit, if you will not shoulder the task for your own fame, at least remember Ascanius rising into his prime. The hopes you lodge..."
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"...what happened in the Odyssey where, because Odysseus sought glory and fame in war, he became traumatized with PTSD. He saw the horrors of..."
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"...is the greatest warrior in the world he's now secured eternal fame but then he does something really weird he decides to mutilate hector's..."
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"...be Achilles. Only by dying in battle could he achieve the fame of Achilles. Okay? So he was acting out the play. What's important..."
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"...and saying that if I do so I shall increase my fame which is more fit for barbarians to do than Greeks who are..."
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The Odyssey ends by making love more important than empire, fame, and heroic death.
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A source-grounded reading of the Iliad as self-recognition: Achilles becomes a mirror for humiliation and pride, Homeric speech tries to control reality, and the ancient poet becomes prophet and teacher because truth is beautiful,...
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A source-grounded reading of the Great Books as initiation: school materialism is named as the great lie, consciousness becomes the real substance of the universe, attention is true wealth, and reading becomes a way...
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