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The classroom briefly confirms that ordinary people in Dante's world were not simply reading scripture directly for themselves.
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Aurelia agrees that the Italian carries stronger sibilance and sonic texture than the English rendering.
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Aurelia says English rhymed translations exist but are generally poor compared with the sonic force of the Italian.
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A student textualist argues that the Italian points toward 'argument' rather than 'evidence', which would materially change how the passage on faith should be understood.
diagnosis
Jiang says reading Divine Comedy in English is a severe limitation because it prevents true literary analysis of diction, syntax, sound, and poetic form, so fully deciphering Dante requires reading him in Italian for oneself.
definition
Jiang frames his lecture as only one interpretation and warns that reading the Divine Comedy in English introduces interpretive problems because the class does not know Italian.
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Jiang says he uses Allen Mandelbaum's translation because it is accessible, and he avoids close reading The Divine Comedy because translated diction cannot bear that kind of word-level analysis.
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Jiang says bad translations have limited his reading of the Quran and that full depth likely requires Arabic.
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"Well, at the time, most people didn't even read the Bible. Yeah, yeah, exactly. Because of the, it wasn't Latin, so like, that was..."
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"I mean, I agree. I feel like there's something, like, very, like, the se. Could you talk? The se, like, there's a kind of,..."
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"I'm pretty sure there's some rhymed translations in English, but they are pretty bad. But I, I think what it's called, but..."
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"looks like love sounds like love so yeah so I think uh you know uh I uh I try to uh read this uh..."
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"uh in the Dante text it is argumenty it never used evidence so it is argument so wait sorry sorry okay so so okay"
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"renaissance okay what makes the renaissance a revolution in human affairs is that as you say it celebrates the human spirit and how the..."
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"This is a severe limitation because it prevents us from doing literary analysis. We can't study the words. We can't study the diction, the..."
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"Yeah, and that would be great, but the point I'm trying to make is, unless you read it in Italian by yourself, you'll never..."
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"...are reading this in english this is one of dozens of translations so there's going to be problems in interpretation because we because we..."
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"Um, you, you know, I, I've read bad translations, to be honest with you. Yeah. Um, I, I've read bad translation. But, but they..."
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"years of methodically memorizing the characters and there's a lot of characters but there's at least 2 000 characters that you must memorize if..."
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"you can't transliterate the language it's very hard to bring in foreign concepts so for example the word cinema is translated as Dane in..."
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