A further student resists Jiang's dismissal of Rowling by arguing that painful conditions and hardship can sharpen imagination and produce serious writing.
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Suffering
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Jiang frames Dante's core conflict as the need to reconcile prophetic mission with the misery of exile from Florence in 1302, including the loss of home, property, and wealth.
He says Troy's destruction and Aeneas's suffering are retroactively justified by the imperial destination of Rome, which lets Aeneas recommit to his mission.
In the quoted passage, Dante asks his ancestor to tell him plainly what fortune approaches, describing earlier warnings as grievous but saying foreknowledge lets the arrow land more gently.
A student proposes that Dante's predicted suffering may be framed both through Aeneas and through Christ-like suffering that brings about a new life.
Jiang says the student's reading is correct: Dante is patterned both on Aeneas's journey and on a Christ figure who suffers and dies to bring salvation into the world.
Jiang says Dante must go into exile and isolation to produce the Divine Comedy, but the prophecy still looks like a prison sentence whose reward only arrives after death.
A student proposes that Catholic theology treats suffering for Christ as spiritually ennobling, so Dante may understand his exile as a Christ-like sacrifice undertaken for his great work.
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"Okay. Bruce? Thank you. I was saying there's so many famous writers. Some of the writers in America, for example, like Hemingway, right? So,..."
"All right, okay. So we'll take a break, and we'll come back at 1 o 'clock, okay? All right, thanks, guys. Are we good,..."
"...Okay, so how does he reconcile this pain, this agony, this suffering, with his large divine mission? And here, what he's going to do..."
"Troy was destroyed for a reason. To found Rome. Aeneas had to go on this long, painful journey in order to build the foundation..."
"Like Phaethon, one who still makes fathers wary of sons, when he had heard insinuations, and he, to be assured, came to Clemene, such..."
"heals souls and when descending to the dead world, what I heard about my future life were grievous words. Although against the blows of..."
"...Aeneas, I think his name is Aeneas, from Troy, and the suffering of Christ? Like, could you be drawing this comparison that he is..."
"Yeah, that's exactly the parallel. So you say two things, okay? Yes, clearly he is referencing Aeneas and his journey and the prophecy from..."
"Okay, so that's a good start, okay? Um, if he is to achieve Divine Comedy, he needs to go into isolation. Okay? This is..."
"...Christ. So there's this, let's say there's this almost preoccupation with suffering and the ennobling of the spirit in Christian, in Catholic, uh, theology...."
"like it proposes a solution for people who like went through suffering without understanding why they went through suffering because like they went through..."
"...okay so you suffer and now you can now explain your suffering what do we call this order no okay so so so think..."
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