Jiang poses the unresolved problem that the same poem can convert everyone except its own author.
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Jiang argues the holy fire still leaks out strongly enough that receptive readers can be drawn to Christianity even through a compromised poem.
A student says the Divine Comedy persuades because readers are made to go on the same journey Dante undergoes rather than merely hear an argument.
Jiang says The Divine Comedy is a pure act of imagination rather than a literal report of a trip to heaven, and that the pilgrim is designed to let each reader undertake his own subjective journey.
Another student says the extended dialogue lets readers reason their way through Dante's experience instead of being handed a conclusion without participation.
Dante's journey is a cosmic journey that takes the reader with him, not merely a private literary itinerary.
Jiang says Dante reaches the answer to the human-in-God paradox but refuses to state it because the poem only works when each reader puts the pieces together.
Meaning is co-created: the reader's understanding and interpretation give life and power to sparse biblical words.
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"...way that status embraced christianity versus a poet status is a reader what's going on here it's like he changed the"
"convert to christianity what's going on here it can move everybody except virgil he's like the"
"...out and if you're willing if you are a receptive enough reader you're able to still feel that light and that"
"light will draw you to christianity doesn't make sense okay but the poet has committed evil and sin by trapping the holy fire and..."
"uh they need to let the readers or the audience go on the journey uh like he did to embody and to emphasize what..."
"into his brain uh uh okay so first of all the vine comedy it's a pure act of imagination right he didn't actually go..."
"I think it's just for the reader to, so the reader can reason it out through Dante's experience in heaven. So as a reader,..."
"So they're not in purgatory, okay? And what Cato is saying is that purgatory is a mountain. They have to climb the mountain to..."
"How is it that a human is within God itself? That should not be possible. We are separate. God is good. We are evil...."
"But then my mind was struck by light that flashed and with this light received what it had been asked. He now has an..."
"-creation. Okay? Your meaning co -creation. Your meaning your understanding your interpretation is what gives life to these words. There are not many words..."
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