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Jiang rejects the idea that every relevant schism in this circle must be an explicit separation from God, noting that Caesar and Pompey provide Dante with secular political examples.
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Pompey
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Jiang names a second paradox: Cato fought on Pompey's side against Caesar, even though the killers of Caesar are placed among the worst traitors in Inferno.
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Pompey could have defeated Caesar by starving Italy, but elite fear of Pompey becoming king forced a battle that Caesar’s loyal army won.
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Caesar forms the First Triumvirate with Pompey and Crassus because all three are blocked by the Senate and can trade political support for each other's goals.
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At the start of the Caesar-Pompey civil war, Caesar controls Rome and poor Gaul while Pompey and the optimates control Spain, Greece, Anatolia, Syria, and North Africa, including Rome's food supply.
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Pompey's best strategy is containment: because Pompey controls Rome's food provinces, he can wait for hunger, troop disloyalty, and Roman resentment to weaken Caesar.
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Caesar faces one man versus an entire empire, but he has a highly disciplined, personally devoted army and opponents divided by distrust of Pompey's growing power.
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At Pharsalus, optimate pressure overrides Pompey's preferred containment strategy, and Caesar's disciplined army withstands the cavalry hammer-and-anvil maneuver.
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"good but but but according to dante this is schisming from god right and i mean there's"
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"not necessarily not necessarily not necessarily no right because caesar and pompey didn't believe in god right okay all right so this is this..."
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"Okay, sure. Okay. But, but, but, but that's not necessarily a paradox. Like the fact that he, that he is not a Christian, that's..."
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"but he rebelled against Caesar, right? He rebelled against Caesar. He was on the side of Pompeii. Um, so if I'm trying to figure..."
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"...that the Ottomans are really stupid, arrogant, and lazy. Okay? So, Pompey, General Pompey, is fighting for the Ottomans, and he's going against Caesar."
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"And Pompey's strategy, it's really simple. Okay? Caesar has control over Italy. There's a problem, though. Italy is poor. It does not produce enough..."
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"...in this battle, because Caesar has a loyal army, they defeat Pompey, even though Pompey has more soldiers. Okay? And then what Caesar will..."
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"...two other individuals that the Senate hates. Okay? The first is Pompey, and Pompey is considered the greatest general of Rome. Okay? Pompey is..."
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"Okay? So Caesar, as counsel, will help settle the veterans of Pompey. He'll promote some tax reform that Crassus wants. And in return, Pompey..."
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"Everyone back here are not allowed to say anything. Okay? Because you go in turns. The people who sit at the front are the..."
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"...its food from the provinces. Okay? So in other words, all Pompey has to do is wait. This is what we call a containment..."
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"...and Scipio, they don't really, they hate Caesar. They don't trust Pompey either. Right? Because as this war continues, more and more power will..."
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