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Elite overproduction is Jiang's Turchin-linked concept for collapse caused by too many elites fighting over limited positions of status and power.
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Peter Turchin
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Jiang uses Peter Turchin's elite overproduction to describe the growth of too many elites competing for too little status in an unequal Rome.
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Peter Turchin's elite overproduction is introduced as a theory that argues against the usual Marx-derived model of collapse by bottom-up worker rebellion.
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Turchin's elite-overproduction model, as Jiang presents it, says the number of rich people only rises over time, so societies collapse unless they choose revolution, civil war, or invasion, each of which creates instability.
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Jiang explains many interstate conflicts through Peter Turchin's idea of elite overproduction: rival elite factions externalize their domestic power struggles by pulling other states into conflict.
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Jiang uses Peter Turchin's theory of elite overproduction to explain Western political polarization as a fight among ambitious elite factions competing for too few positions of power.
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Jiang invokes Peter Turchin's elite-overproduction theory to explain imperial decline: too many aspirant elites are competing for too few rent-extracting positions, so elite struggle intensifies.
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Jiang recommends Peter Turchin's work because the concept of elite overproduction explains historical change as conflict within nations, especially conflict among surplus elites competing parasitically over status and extraction.
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"...these conflicts arise because of um instability within the hierarchy so peter turchin has a term called elite overproduction so what happens is different..."
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"forced them to engage"
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"...for that, let's look at three theories. Okay. The first is Peter Turchin, and he proposed the idea of elite overproduction. And so he..."
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"And so these elite compete for each other for these limited positions of power. And you could argue that's exactly what's happening in the..."
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"OK, so Peter Turchin has a theory called elite overproduction. And this is what explains the decline of empires. That you have too many..."
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"So that I would recommend. I would also recommend Peter Turchin. He has a concept called elite overproduction. And he's written quite a few..."
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"...extremely similar. Another way to understand this is you could use Peter Turchin's theory of elite overproduction. So what's really important for society is..."
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"...that's an opportunity in Trump because remember we go back to Peter Turchin's theory of elite of production the deep state is not one..."
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"...a great question so i'm like i'm a big fan of peter turchin's um and i and i i've read all his books and..."
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"...modeling too much uh but but again i rely heavily on peter turchin's work for my own analysis but i think that his modeling..."
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"peter turchin um in his understanding of elite of production the elite are people who can impose rent on others they're rent seekers so..."
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"...I will say is I'm not sure if you know about Peter Turchin and the idea of reproduction, right? That's a huge issue in..."
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