The Epstein TRAP: Trump, Israel & the DEATH of America | Prof Jiang Xueqin

good evening everyone welcome back to the show it's your host it's your host danny haifang thanks for coming out this evening please do hit the like button before you or as you come on because we have a great show for you today because what we're talking about is much bigger than just a scandal we are talking about a major trap that was now being exposed by the very people who built it newly released Epstein emails have sent shockwaves through trump circle and really the entire establishment because what's inside them reveals corruption power and criminality on a scale that we may have seen before but it is only getting worse and worse as people clamor for the files tonight we are joined by Professor John suichin of predictive history a geopolitical analyst who connects the dots between the elites secret societies and the forces driving the collapse of America's Empire uh Professor John thanks so much

for coming back on the show it's great to have you thanks so much Danny thanks so much for having me back of course of course well let's get right to it many have been paying attention and really diving into these major email Revelations and now what we have regarding Epstein is Trump's response and here it is now that the Democrats are using the Epstein hoax involving Democrats not Republicans to try to deflect from the disastrous shutdown and then he goes on and on he is going to now ask his own attorney general and the Department of Justice and the FBI to investigate Epstein's involvement with the leadership and with the relationships with Bill Clinton Larry Summers Reid Hoffman JP Morgan on and on and on saying it's another Russia Russia Russia scam now what's pretty incredible about this uh Professor John is that we are seeing power I think be exposed in real time and

I want your take on how this all works because Donald Trump cannot run away from the fact that Jeffrey Epstein in these emails said it straight up he said it is wild I am the one to be able to take him down referring to Donald Trump when he was being investigated uh in the first term that he served maybe you can give us an overview first of how uh power works I know you've been covering secret societies what is the conspiracy here because just as this was happening you had Trump begging for Netanyahu to be pardoned and we have a major political crisis and of course the collapsing American Empire all coming together uh take it away yeah so these Epstein files these emails

they're being released and um really enlightening and they really illuminate for us how power works so I will give a structural overview of what these emails reveal to us okay the first thing um it reveals to us is that all these people in power they lead they're all friends with each other um so in public you know the Democrats and Republicans they can be fighting each other but in reality they go to the same schools um they go to the same parties um they're just friends with each other so what you're seeing in public they're sort of like um political struggle in public it's all um just fake it's like wrestling uh it's reality TV these the elite are all friends with each other that's the first thing um second thing that we've noticed about the um emails is how Cavalier the elite are they think that they're above everyone else they think they're untouchable

so they just they just speak minds freely you know i mean jeffrey epstein he was using gmail in order to make all these sensitive communications there was absolutely no operations operational security um he didn't really care because he believed he was untouchable um and that's that's how the elite think and behave they live in a bubble they think that they control the world uh and they're untouchable so they can do they can do whatever whatever they want and all that matters is staying within this bubble staying close to each other the third thing i will say is that these emails don't tell us but we can assume that there are many layers of networking among the elite um so uh so it's every episode why was he so popular uh among the elite well i mean first of all he was just a friendly guy who did a lot of networking and was able to

bring the elite together if you look at go to epson island you will find that there are there's a temple there that's almost designed for ritual sacrifice so um what i've researched and what i've discovered is that the way that the elite stay together is through rituals secret society rituals why because at the end of the day if you're probably elite your biggest problem is um trust how can you trust that person to not rat you out in this political struggle and the answer is well you blackmail each other right so so you do act together uh that would consider taboo including um you know sex with uh underage children um i mean there are lots of transgressions that you can do and the more transgressions you do the more cohesive the elite is so um unfortunately if you dig deeper into jeffrey epstein what you'll find is a lot of um transgressions both sexual

and violent as well bring these social taboos i mean like like like the public i mean it it like what's really astonishing about the jeffrey epstein case is that slowly the inner workings of the elite are being revealed to the public and all these conspiracy theories that we once believed couldn't possibly be true um including that the entire um american elite are just a bunch of pedophiles i mean they're slowly turning out to be true and and this marks

a radical turning point in american history yeah yeah great point and you know to that end uh in terms of how flippant all of this is and and you know there is this email that's been the most recent emails that have been going around what is so incredible about them is that the more that they are released in this weaponized way the more successful and efficient and assertive are the people that are going to be and are and will be able to create them and and so i think one of the different ways that i feel like that is good um is that we have to maintain the same capacity of control and that is an important thing that we need to continue to aim towards i mean we can keep doing what we came up with which is i mean if you know you know i'll be around a lot more people who have

been involved in anti -independence怎么 you know the way i see it you know the the chilean people can not handle the style and the way they're being treated right now um and so just there's up and coming so i think what's going on uh Jeffrey Epstein said what that means that's a Yiddish word for trouble uh you and your boy Donnie can make a remake of the movie get hard this is how they're talking to each other on an unsecure server uh Professor John talking about Bill Clinton and Donald Trump I mean this is shocking a lot of people but uh maybe you can reiterate or reinforce or elaborate on kind of what this really reveals about uh uh all of this what what's going on here because what I see is a dying American Empire kind of just being exposed without uh real you know not by journalists not by people

doing the work but by themselves well I mean we also have to remember that um Jeffrey Epstein in his Manhattan penthouse there's a painting of Bill Clinton in a dress in drag basically so um one possible interpretation is that all these politicians that we think are our representatives um you know they're all just the playthings of the Elite they're just puppets of the Elite they're just paid actors they're literally paid actors and so American democracy has always been alive um and so Bill Clinton Donald Trump they just do the bidding of the powerful and the powerful are you know in their party secret parties laughing at us mocking us because um they've been able to deceive us and and we um every day are fighting over um you know these petty politics that has absolutely nothing to do with real power so I think that what these Epstein emails reveals is the deep contempt that

they lead has for the people um and these politicians are nothing more than these um puppets elite um display in front of us to in order to distract or distract us everything's been curated by by the powerful and so what we see in Washington Washington DC has not it has never been more than

a reality reality TV show yeah yeah great points uh Professor John you know and it goes deeper than this because I think one of the things that is left out of this conversation has been we're going to be touching this a lot throughout the program Israel because this is we have to remember this was a limited release by the House Oversight Committee by the U.S government itself a major uh I guess a slight Democratic Party majority so really it was a partisan thing despite how much the emails really showed but I want to pull up what are what emails are not being emphasized and I want to pull up this one in particular uh talking about how Epstein was effectively drafting foreign policy messaging for former Israeli PM Ehud Barak who many believe was uh really um instrumental in the Epstein relate there they had a very close relationship uh I would use the

opportunity says Jeffrey Epstein to compare it with Iran talking about Syria the solutions become more complex at the time I see I think many people would like your views on Egypt Syria Etc Russia's role I think you might point out the gassing of women and children is an expression of the 20th century women are no longer equivalent children civilians versus combatants only literally giving advice Professor John on how Jeffrey Epstein give you advice and how Israel should paint uh uh it's you know U.S foreign policy I mean talk about this I I think this really blows open the realities of these relationships and how it gets all the way to the level of Empire yeah so um the first thing we

need to understand is that um power um always consolidates and coalesces what I mean by that is that these intelligence agencies Mossad CIA mi6 um they're all you know they're all interlocked together they're all in Alliance together that's the first thing second thing is that these um intelligence agencies are also in Alliance with different secret societies as well as criminal organizations um so from the perspective of uh people like someone like Jeffrey Epstein who's been in the United States for many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many years I think that Jeffrey Epstein he's the real power in the world and that's why he thinks that he can dictate foreign policy to everyone okay so um um I don't think Jeffrey Epstein was actually a spy I think Ghislaine Maxwell um his girlfriend was actually the spy um and one good piece of

evidence for that is that Ghislaine Maxwell's father Robert Maxwell was a notorious spy and he was working for Mossad um six as well as russian intelligence uh the kgb um so that's how the powerful works the powerful are almost like a nexus of all these intelligence agencies uh foreign governments secret societies and criminal organizations and so they discuss amongst themselves how to best frame issues and how to best push um uh events so you know from the perfect perspective if you look at if you look at more and more of jeffrey epstein's emails what you what you would discover is that he he was privy to a lot of geopolitical events and in fact he was actually helping to plan a lot of geopolitical

events as well yeah yeah and uh let's go dive more deeply now into some of these power players that were revealed to be not to be very close to jeffrey epstein where he was literally talking about them with kathy ramier who is obama's uh on obama's legal campaign council uh white house council uh he says girls when talking to her careful i will renew an old habit mind you uh she says you might get sick of me just sat down on this train you're not managing it anything your time well enough it's u.n general assembly week he says this week peter teals larry summers william burns former cia director gordon brown a former uk prime minister jaglan who is a nobel peace prize chairman was mongolian president he's just naming people boris gates uh bill gates the new yorker i got out of the room by the way it's all thanks to you and

and i have the everything you do and the things you do and everything you think and be that's what it's all

about yeah so as i said so you have your team of people and you want to bring us to the things that you want to have you want to have me to bring you into this conversation and i want to just share it with you other than this but yeah i i have a few things for you here that's what you say um and i have a few more questions for you here in kind of um a few more questions for you here in kind for us. It's not actually real. What goes on behind the scenes is that these powerful people are all friends. So even though there's wars going on between Russia and Ukraine, guess what? The elite of Ukraine and Russia are all friends. Guess what? The elite of Europe and Russia and Ukraine and America, they're all friends. They go to the same parties. Their children go to the same schools. They're probably intermarried with each other.

So that's really how the world works. And as more and more of these Epstein files are released, the more and more we will discover that the elite is all interconnected. They're just playing us for fools. That I think is the ultimate message of these file release.

Yeah. Yeah. And Professor Zhang, you know, in your works, you have called America where while Jeffrey Epstein seemingly was working for Israel, he was working within the United States and tugging on all of the most powerful people to the point where he was. I mean, a lot of people have been bringing this up. He had all of this dirt on Donald Trump, and then he ended up dead. Could you could you talk about the given that we know Jeffrey Epstein was a major player in driving U.S. foreign policy, was a major drive, was majorly connected and was likely conducting some kind of what seemed like a blackmail operation. Talk about why. Why is this necessary from the point of view of the power elite, those who are ruling over this empire? Because we have major connections to Israel, major connections to this decaying American empire that

now Donald Trump is looking like the kind of the leader that's, you know, falling on the sword, so to speak, that he is being absolutely he is being dragged almost as the antichrist figure in all of this.

So the first thing to note is that Jeffrey Epstein is not unique. You go to any major American city, I guarantee you there is a Jeffrey Epstein like figure coordinating among the city's different politicians, celebrities, mafia organizations, secret societies. OK, so Jeffrey Epstein is a very common character in today's world. Now, why is that the case? OK, so let's look at today's world and I will and I will highlight three structural issues with today's world. OK, the first major problem with today's world is the atomization of society, meaning that we focus on the individual, whereas before in previous societies we focused on the family, the tribe, the clan. But nowadays we've all been atomized. We've all been individualized. That diminished our capacity to work together for the pursuit of certain political ends. Okay, that's the first major problem in today's world. Second major problem in today's world is globalization, multiculturalism, transnationalism. So people's sense of ethnic identity has been dampened.

It's been diluted. And so people are less willing to work for a cultural cohesive cause. That's the second major problem. The third major problem, which is the most major problem is the bureaucratization of society you look at the growth of the federal government uh in in washington dc then you look at the growth of the eu super state uh in uh in europe so our lives have become more bureaucratic the problem with this is that bureaucracies are indifferent they're loose they're compartmentalized okay so um all these different departments are siloed off and they cannot coordinate together so in today's society you have a problem of coordination how do you get groups to work together well you get them to work together mainly for secret societies um and and because you society solves three major problems that would benefit uh the members in today's society the first is secrecy second is

trust and the third is coordination okay so secrecy because you don't want to be discovered you know um if you are discovered that you're cheating in this game and then they would be you'll be outlawed you'd be persecuted uh trust is how do you trust members of your society not to um rat you out and the third is how do you work together for a common cause coordination and the solution to all three problems is of course blackmail um so you need someone like jeffrey epstein and there are lots of people uh like um jeffrey epstein to help the elite coalesce together through blackmail by engaging in acts of transgression whether it's a ritual sexual abuse of children which is very common but look there are actually even worse forms of progression i'm not going to go into them because they are disgusting and vile but but we've all heard rumors um off of this

transgression so that's why we have blackmail today that's why someone like jeffrey epstein is everywhere in society and that's why we need someone like jeffrey epstein because the only way for the elite to work together is through blackmail otherwise don't trust each other otherwise they'll go to war um with each other so something something i will say uh with regard to donald trump is that people forget that trump's first mentor and his most influential teacher was actually ray colin okay if you look at ray colin if you look at history he was actually the original jeffrey epstein he was part of the washington gay mafia and he specialized in blackmailing politicians he was very good friends with j edward hoover they went to each other's um parties um where they engaged in all these sort of like homosexual endeavors and they had pictures of each other so um roy cohn was the original jeffrey epstein

and he was the mentor of donald trump so what did donald trump learn from roy cohn he learned how to blackmail but most importantly this is this is really important for us to understand is he learned how to avoid being blackmailed so another thing that i will say about donald trump is that he's a teetotaler he does not drink this is really weird because we've known him as a playboy ever since the 1980s and he's always dating the you know these beautiful women he's he's always throwing these lavish parties he's always hanging out with um the most famous the most wealthy and he himself even though he's organizing his parties does not touch alcohol or drugs why because he learned from roy cohn that's how they get you okay the worst thing that can happen to you is blackmail so i guarantee you these emails are coming up there's no dirt on this guy if

there was any dirt on this guy donald trump we would have seen it in 2016 or 2020 when the elite spent six billion dollars to get rid of donald trump okay so i'm telling you right now there's absolutely no blackmail on donald trump i'm also telling you that blackmail is just a way of life among the powerful

yeah well what's interesting about this from what you're saying then professor chang is that uh donald trump has been melting down about this so i guess we can talk about why because we've seen now there's a lot of conversations that have been happening since early on in this epstein saga you know the trump administration promised to release these files and then broke that promise and here is what some people are bringing up here is uh many he had many run -ins with the mainstream media about this here is just one during mysteries

one of the biggest ones is whether he ever worked for a american or foreign intelligence agency the former labor secretary who was miami u.s attorney alex kosta he allegedly said that he did work for an intelligence agency so could you resolve whether or not he did and And also, could you say why there was a minute missing from the jailhouse tape on the night of the 7th?

Yeah, sure. Can I just interrupt for a second? Are you still talking about Jeffrey Epstein? This guy's been talked about for years. You're asking, we have Texas, we have this, we have all of the things. And are people still talking about this guy, this creep? That is unbelievable.

So that was his response there. But this has had a major impact on the, what many are calling the MAGA base. And it has been angered by this. And Trump has lost many prominent figures, including Candace Owens, who commented on this situation. Here it is.

Seems to have been hiding these emails. They're not good. Okay. They are completely indefensible. But I already told you, I was done with MAGA at the moment he looked us in the face and he said, what files, right? What? What? Are we still talking about Jeffrey Epstein? Pam Bondi said it was a Democrat hoax. No, I think the entire nation has been hoaxed by Republicans and Democrats. And there are pervert elites that sit at the top.

So that was her response. Professor Jiang, you know, given if there is no dirt on Trump, why would he hide it then? Because in the emails, what it was proven was that he had deep associations. Of course, we don't have proof that he took part necessarily in any of the activities. Beyond the fact that it seems like Virginia Gouffre was saying that she didn't want to run into Trump should Jeffrey Epstein not be there. So your assessment.

Yeah. So we know from news reporting that Epstein and Trump go all the way back. They've known each other ever since the 1980s. And they used to be best friends. Epstein was a frequent visitor to Mar -a -Lago. And they were falling out because Trump believed. That Epstein was stealing his workers to go work for himself. And so they had a falling out. And there's actually rumors that Trump was one of the informants that landed Epstein in trouble of the law in the first place. And this is back in the early 2000s. So Epstein and Trump had a falling out. Okay. So that's something. That. That we know. That's number one. Number two is that it's as you say, it's really interesting that Trump doesn't want to talk about Epstein. In fact, he's done a lot to suppress the Epstein files. So why would he do that? So, okay. Now, let's do a thought experiment.

It's really important for us to do a thought experiment to understand what's going on. The year is. So we go back a year. Donald Trump has just won the presidency. And let's just assume what a second term would look like. We would think that in the in the business world, Elon Musk would be his main backer because Elon Musk gave $100 million to Trump's campaign. Right. We would also expect that in the media, there would be three individuals that would be most supportive of Trump. Nick Fuentes, Tucker Carlson, Kenneth Owens. Okay. And we can also expect within the U.S. Congress, Trump would have some diehard supporters that would do whatever he wants. Okay. And the two that would come most readily to mind are MTG, Marjorie Taylor Greene, as well as Lauren Bobbitt. Why? Because during the first term, these were these two were the most diehard Trump mega supporters. Okay.

So that's what we expect. Now, what is the reality? The reality is that with Elon Musk, he had a falling out with Donald Trump. You know, he had a fallout with Donald Trump. He had a black eye. Then he left the White House. And after he leaves the White House, he has this tweet. And he's basically like Trump's in the Epstein files. Mark my words. Okay. That's kind of strange. Then you have Nick Fuentes, Kenneth Owens, Tucker Carlson turning against Trump. And in fact, doing as much as possible to embarrass the Trump administration. Now, you look at Congress. These Epstein files are being released because four members, four Republican members of Congress have sided with the Democrats in voting for their release. Okay. And these four Republicans are Thomas Massey, Nancy Mace, and Marjorie Taylor Greene and Lauren Bobbitt. In fact, what we know is that Penn Bondi had a very long meeting with Lauren Bobbitt trying to tell her, Hey, man, don't switch sides.

Don't vote for Trump. Don't vote for the release of these files. The president will be very angry at you. Okay. So this is really weird. The people that we expect to most support Donald Trump in the second term have now turned against him. This makes no sense because what did Donald Trump do to piss these people off? So, and also, like, as I keep on saying, there's actually no blackmail on this guy because a guy like Donald Trump, he has been breaking a law in his entire life and getting away with it. So he knows. He knows how to skirt the law. He knows how not to get in trouble with the law. And he knows how to be careful about someone like Jeffrey Epstein, who cannot keep his mouth shut. Okay. So there's, I don't think there's any dirt on this guy. I'd be very surprised if the Epstein files implicate Trump in any manner.

I understand. Yes. Trump is named a lot in his files. I understand that. Yeah. Trump likes to be seen with underage girls. I mean, he was in charge of these Miss Teen USA pageants. Okay. So there's nothing really surprising about these Epstein files. So the question is, why is this happening? And I have a theory. Okay. And this theory can be completely idiotic. Okay. But I will pose this theory. It's all a show. It's a Trump show. It's all an illusion. Okay. These Epstein files do not implicate Trump, but he wants to create a spectacle around the Epstein files. You know, he was part of the World Wrestling Federation. Okay. Okay. For a long time, he had his own TV show, The Apprentice, for a long time. So he understands TV show plotting. He understands how to maximize an audience's emotional reaction to a certain event.

What he's doing is creating tension. Right. He could release the tension, the Epstein files, like many months ago, and we would go over the Epstein files and we'd be like, what is this crap? This tells us nothing that we don't already know. We know Bill Clinton. We know Bill Gates. We know Larry Summers. We know Jamie Dimon. We're all part of the Epstein circle and they all visit the Epstein Island. We all know, we all, we know all this. Right. So how do you create a visceral hatred for the Democrats and for the elite among the people? What you do is you create as much tension as possible by making this Epstein files as seemingly secretive as possible. But not only that, but you create a situation in which the people are begging. Okay. They're begging for the Epstein files so that when new information comes out, they become more and more agitated. They become more and more violent.

That's what we're seeing today. Okay. So remember what's happening. Remember what's happening is that while the, uh, house oversight committee, um, the Democrats are releasing more and more files with Trump being implicated, Trump has announced that they will launch an investigation of Bill Clinton and his ties with Epstein. And before people would be like, okay. This is partisan. Trump is clearly going after Democrats, but now people are like, oh, well, this makes sense because we want more information released about, about Epstein release all the files. Okay. So, um, this is all theater. This is all an illusion. Trump is not implicated in Epstein files, but Bill Clinton, Bill Gates, Larry Summers, Jimmy diamond that the main leaders of the democratic party in many ways. And, and it's possible that eventually, um, um, Podesta, John Podesta will be implicated as well. Okay. We're seeing Trump slowly use law fear to go after his democratic enemies.

Um, and it, you know, it's quite on quite honestly, it's entirely possible that one day Trump will use law for gets Obama as well. So I know this sounds strange. I know it sounds like conspiracy theory, but just look at the facts before you.

Hmm. Yeah. Well, that's. That's, that's an interesting take first jar from what I see from these emails, while they don't, you know, I think a lot of people are seeing a smoking gun on a lot of these emails, given that, uh, Jeffrey Epstein was hanging out with him during his presidency was in the Trump tower. So many things have been revealed about their relationship and, and, uh, Jeffrey Epstein in these emails himself said that, you know, he's the dog that's barking, so to speak around. This. This particular victim. So it would be interesting, you know, but at the same time, it, it, it's a very limited release. So we don't necessarily know everything and we don't know how far this goes, but we do know that Donald Trump was in the situation room right after this, trying to discipline his, uh, you know, uh, colleagues like, uh, Lauren Bobert, uh, who is a representative in Congress.

They're voting on, uh, releasing these files. And, uh, it seems like. The Trump administration was trying to. Discipline her to not go along with this and she ended up rescinding. So would you say that this is all theater because it does look like we are being taken down this road of, uh, these files are in the conversation. The problem for Donald Trump is that it actually is hurting him quite badly in terms of his own base. Uh, you said Candace Owens, Nick Fuentes, these folks are going against him now. They are. Uh, they are, and they are a lot of reasons, a lot of the reasons because of this, because he, he didn't fulfill this pro promise to release the files, your thoughts.

Look, it's all tension and release. It's all theater, right? Because, um, you know, you'll, you'll get world wrestling Federation. Okay. People love those who they hate and people love redemption story. Okay. So Trump, yeah, yeah, he's got 36 % approval ratings and. Um, his base has turned against him and her Carlson, Nick friend is, um, Dave Smith, all talking trash about him, but so what, you know, what does it matter? What matters is in 20 28, that election that's what matters because Trump has intention of running for a third term. That's the key. Okay. Also, what's the key. What's key is that we can expect more political violence in America. Oh, next few years. Um, the. the sort of political consensus has broken down. There's this major infighting among the elite that these Epstein -Farrows are revealing to us. So Trump needs a street army on his side. And what he's doing is that he's messaging to the MAGA, listen, the real enemy is the elite.

The elite has me cornered. The elite has blackmail on me. And that's why I'm begging for help. You know, like there's nothing I can do. If Netanyahu wants me to go bomb Iran, I can't do anything about it. If the deep state wants me to go bomb Venezuela, I can't do anything about it. I'm being held hostage. Save me, okay? That's slowly the message being sent to his base, okay? I know it sounds weird, but what we need to understand is that, look, watch a football game or watch a basketball game. These athletes are superstars. They're able to do things that are unimaginable to us. These politicians, Donald Trump, MTG, Thomas Massie, they're able to have a sixth sense of political wins, of how America, the mood in America is developing and how to best manipulate it through nuance. Okay, they're able to ride that wave.

So again, I know it sounds crazy, but let's see how things play out over the next few months.

Yeah, no, I mean it, look, this is a moment right now, and it looks really bad uh and you know this is one of the worst uh i think starts to a presidency in a long time but at the same time we were talking about this there there's elites pulling strings for real policy which i think we can get to now this what isn't being talked about and at all really when it comes to these emails and that is the role of israel and i want to pull up this um professor john caitlyn johnstone great uh journalist does great analysis pulled up a bunch of headlines that you know uh stories that have been coming out in recent weeks many of them from drop site news uh you know and i'll just pull them up here israeli spied state for weeks at a time with jeffrey epstein in manhattan leaked emails show epstein working on

a wire transfer to ehud barack's top aide yoni corin who regularly stayed at his apartment jeffrey epstein helped broker israeli security agreement with mongolia jeffrey epstein and the mozad how he helped israel build a back channel to russia amidst serious war although there was no real back channel that was proven to be but there was talks about it jeffrey epstein helped israel sell a surveillance state takotah duvar so professor zhang this is what isn't being talked about uh help us understand then the role of israel in all of this um is the true power dynamic the true power relationship why is it turning out like this and why are these epstein files so important to understanding all of this

um so issue is a very complicated issue um and again i'm going to go on a limb and um give everyone a controversial take the jewish identity the jewish people is a creation of empire it's a country of empire so i know this so let me slowly explain what's going on and and please be patient okay so um the jewish people the the term jews uh came from the persian empire and i would argue that uh israel is a construct of the persian empire okay so um i know that in the bible uh you know the bible says that the jews come from abraham uh who lived like four thousand years ago but if you just look at the real history israel was the creation of the persian empire why well because if you look at a map at that time in history uh the middle east was the wealthiest part of the world you

had anatolia you had egypt you had mesopotamia uh you had the mediterranean in the asian and the center of this world was levant whoever controlled the levant controlled the world um so uh sarah's the great he had just conquered babylon and he discovered that there were these um captives from the former um state of judah these are the proto -jews and the policy for the persians is divided in rule okay so um just create as much these instability in a border area as much as possible as to maintain control right because if you if the region is unstable the empire has reason to exert control but also much more importantly you prevent another power from arising within your borderlands so um at this time in history this this would be up the year 500 um common era um judah and samara were pretty peaceful places there were jews israelites who had converted into the local

polythesis religion at this time in history most people in that area was polypistic and people got along really well with that um that's a great way to uh umenser a lot of this thing what really well they've been married together and then along comes this guy eshra okay and he's the governor um um who is sent by persia into in order to recreate the jewish identity okay and and and he immediately proclaims that if you're a jewish man and you want to be still be jewish you must divorce your wife if you marry into a different religion okay and this creates a lot of conflict this creates a lot of instability eshra is the one who gives us the modern day bible because he needs to construct this um israel identity now why is this important this is important because this is the same trick this is the same um strategy that the british will

use when they become an empire okay so at this time in history uh they are since 1700 1800 jerusalem the lebanon is being controlled by the ottoman empire right so the empire is a great steel political rival to the british so how do you destabilize the ottoman empire well you promote zionism okay you promote the idea that this land is um the promised land that god promised to abraham and therefore the jews have a right to it and um at first this idea wasn't very popular but then uh starting about 100 100 years ago with the publication of theodore horzenegger's book um fatherland uh in german calling for the creation of a zionist state uh then it started to gain one more traction okay so this is what we have to remember israel is a construct of empire in order to destabilize the region and israel has been doing a great job of that um

you know before the arrival of of israel before the sinus project jews in the middle east got along really well with muslims throughout history it's the christians that were mainly to blame for the persecution of jews the muslims have always been protective of jews so in 1492 when the spaniards expelled the jews it was the ottoman empire that took them in um the jews um you know climbed to position of power and authority within the islamic caliphate they've always been well respected um go back to the 1950s and the 1940s uh the jews were welcome in baghdad they were welcome in tehran they were welcome throughout the middle middle east but uh the zionist project was it's being fueled by anti -semitism and they need manpower so these zionists were connected all these terrorist attacks in baghdad the jews only felt safe in baghdad so they start to immigrate to um to israel so that's

something that we have to keep in mind that israel is the pitfall of empire it's a cultural threat to israel in order to destabilize the middle east and that's what israel is today uh america is using israel in order to destabilize the the middle east in order to maintain control over their oil resources the trade routes um uh jerusalem which is the holy city for the three major abrahamic religions um so so so that's why we came on here about israel you know uh jeffrey

epstein has long been considered in intelligence assets of some kind um i'm curious on where that factors into all of this given uh his extensive involvement with some of the most important people most powerful people dictating u.s foreign policy dictating empire um and of course uh you know using channels like israeli intelligence um in all of this your thoughts look jeffrey epstein was definitely mossad operative

but he was definitely a ci operative and he could have been operated for the russians for um the british okay so the way that these spies work is that they're all they're all double agents agents and that's why they're so effective because they're able to be a nexus of different power power uh elites so so definitely jeffrey epstein was a massage operative but did he have loyalty to israel maybe maybe not was he good friends with um uh israel absolutely but people like jeffrey epstein they're all psychopaths they're first and foremost loyal to themselves and they they use their power they use their connections in order to amass more and more um personal power uh to themselves uh look the reality is that uh america is turning against israel and um there's no stopping this um and i think one thing that we'll see over the next few years is a surge in and design

and settlement in in america and this jeffrey epstein is it will be a catalyst for for that and and you know what uh america the american people are absolutely right in that uh their foreign policy should not be held hostage their foreign policy should not be dictated by any uh foreign nation uh it makes absolutely no sense that apac will register as a foreign agent in um america so i think that one thing that donald trump will do in the next couple years possibly sooner is that he will ask for apac to register as a foreign agent and this will create a firestorm in american politics that we've never seen before

you know uh professor jeong uh as all of this drama around you know we have mega splits candace owens the these types moving away from donald trump around epstein uh as the emails came out uh u.s president donald trump begged for a pardon for benjamin netanyahu uh he pardoned a major billionaire a former spurs owner british billionaire who you know was involved in insider trading how do you think all this factors into what's going on here in the current atmosphere is is the u.s you called the u.s uh uh or america anti -civilization is this anti -civilization going up in smoke the

american empire is definitely in decline so uh let me respond to uh this trump relationship so what happened was that um after the gaza ceasefire trump flew to israel and give a speech uh in the kanesha and um he he seen out two individuals the first is benjamin natalia who and the second is miriam edelson so so um he's uh he's one of the two ones um and then And what he said is that, hey, guys, we should give Benjamin Netanyahu a pardon, man. And then he got, Netanyahu got sent in an ovation. We look at Netanyahu's face at that moment, he was mortified. Because what Trump was implying is that Netanyahu is starting all these wars around the Middle East in order to not go to prison. So Trump made a point of embarrassing Netanyahu in the Knesset in front of the entire Israeli people. Then he also singled out Miriam Adelson. He told

a story of how he went to a conference with Miriam Adelson and he asked her, do you love America or do you love Israel more? And Miriam Adelson would not answer. And Trump said to the Knesset again in front of the entire... Nation, in front of these live cameras, he said, oh, well, this tells us that Miriam Adelson loves Israel more. OK, so he's basically saying that Miriam Adelson is a traitor to America. This is not a complimentary. Trump is basically trolling his biggest supporter, Miriam Adelson, as well as Netanyahu. And so, I mean, if you are just watching what's happening, you don't think that Netanyahu and Trump are friends. In fact, you think that they absolutely hate each other. So it's a very complicated relationship. And so what's really going on, I think, is that you have a decline of empire. I mean, as you say, when an empire declines, what often happens is the elites attack each other.

OK, so Peter Turchin has a theory called elite overproduction. And this is what explains the decline of empires. That you have too many people. You have too many people who want these too few positions of elite status in which they can extract rent from everyone else. So in other words, a way of saying this is that everything that Trump is doing is ultimately to target the deep state, to reveal who they are. OK, to reveal who they are, what they want and how they work. So that American people can rise up and overthrow the deep state. Now, maybe. This is all just conspiracy. But if we understood in this way that Israel is a pet project of the existing deep state and Trump wants to over for the deep state, so he wants to create all these problems for Israel, that can help us understand a lot of what a lot of what's going on.

Because remember, the people who are most attacking Israel in the media, Nick Fuentes, Candace Owens, Parker Carlson, they are. They used to be. They used to be adamant Trump supporters. So why are they falling out? Also, remember that Candace Owens is blowing up on the Internet because of Charlie Kirk. Right. And what she's saying, what she's implying is that Israel is was responsible for the Charlie Kirk assassination because Charlie Kirk didn't want Trump to bomb Iran. OK, that's that. That's what she's implying. So a lot of sentiment is turning against Israel. Also, remember that what's happening right now is that Larry Ellison has bought TikTok. OK. Which was for the longest time one of those weird platforms in which you can criticize the genocide in Gaza. His son has bought CBS, Viacom and installed Barry Weiss, a very well -known Zionist, as editor in chief of CBS News. OK, so this does not seem like Israel is gaining power in America.

It seems more like desperation. It seems like more like they're being revealed. They're they're being attacked. And they feel as though they have no choice but to defend themselves. So it's almost like a fight or flight mentality. So we are seeing, I think, the end of Zionism in America. I really think that these next two to three years will be a concerted attack against Zionism in America, which implicates a deep state. Because a deep state is first and foremost a Zionist organization. The deep state and Zionism are almost intermarried with each other. So if you attack Zionism, you're also attacking the deep state as well. So I think that's that's what's happening.

Would you say then, based on your take here, that people like Candace Owens, for example, their opposition to Trump, which they say is because of Epstein and also because of Trump's inability to stop the genocide of Palestinians in Gaza. Would you say that those reasons that they that people like her, Tucker Carlson, have given are disingenuous, like it's not the stated reason that there really isn't a reason why they should be breaking from Trump? What's your take on that?

Yeah, I think, look, the Epstein emails tell us that journalists are political operatives, right? So if you look at Michael Wolff, you look at Thomas Landon of The New York Times. They were basically acting like journalists. They were acting like political strategists for Epstein. OK, so, you know, for someone like Candace Owens, Tucker Carlson, Nick Fuentes, to reach the level of fame and power that they have in America, they need to be able to read the political winds properly. OK, so I'm not saying that Donald Trump and Candace Owens talk on the phone and discuss strategy. They don't do that. But Candace Owens has a read on Donald Trump. He has a read on his intentions. She reads the political winds in America. She knows where the magnet base is going. And she positions herself in a position that allows her to speak the truth in a way that is also a political advantage to her.

And that's why they're so successful, because they're able to have a sixth sense of where the political winds are shifting and how to best position yourself in a certain place that allows you, that allows the wind to ride you to success.

Yeah. Yeah. Well, I mean, Tucker Carlson's history. He has a history of being close to, if not an operative of the CIA, especially during the years of the U.S. dirty war in Nicaragua. So that history is never really spoken of. So for me, you know, while it's understandable that these figures can play a positive role for especially those who follow them in opposing things like Ukraine, Iran war, Gaza. Yeah, it wouldn't be a surprise to me. If all that was was political wins because they jumped on it when things were going south and that sentiment was already there, even if they built upon it. But please.

No. I mean, look, Tucker Carlson, his father was CIA operative. Right. And he's trying to keep a secret for a long, long time. I mean, like, I think in an interview he once said, you know, I said that he doesn't know what his father does. Like, how do you not know what your father does? Like, like, like, like, you know, does. You know, like, you know. Yeah. So Tucker Carlson was for a long time trying to pretend that his father was a journalist. Okay. So his father was a CIA operative. But also, much more importantly, he was very high up in the CIA. He was part of a major CIA faction. And so Tucker Carlson grew up in that sort of environment. Even today, he's probably very close with the CIA. As you mentioned, in his 20s, he once went to Nicaragua and he had this, you know, picture of a gun, you know, standing with CIA operatives.

And he was very proud of that. When he interviewed Putin, Putin said to him, hey, I know you. I know that you once applied to the CIA and they rejected you. They don't reject a son of a CIA operative. What they probably, what the CIA probably said to Tucker Carlson is like, you know, you're probably more useful to us if you worked as a journalist. Right. Everyone's sort of Operation Mockingbird, you know, a CIA project to embed journalists into the media to better control. Right. So someone like Bob Bernstein. Of the Washington, of Watergate fame. I mean, I'm sorry. Bob Woodward. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. Bob Woodward. He is clearly, clearly a CIA asset. If you just read his books, if you look at his role in Watergate. Okay. This guy who is like in his mid -20s, graduated from Yale, was probably in Skull and Bones, joins the Navy, is a Naval intelligence officer.

He quits that. He joins the Washington Post Metro section. Guess what his first assignment is? It's Watergate. Who the hell does that? Who the hell gets assigned Watergate as his first assignment? No reporting experience. No connections whatsoever. This guy gets Watergate. So the media, it's all CIA. I'm sorry. It's not all CIA. But you know what I mean. Like, like, like, like a lot. There's a lot of media that's CIA.

I mean, Operation Mockingbird, right? I mean, that's that's a classic, classic reality that we need to definitely fess up to. Well, before we close on the story and move on to a different one, Professor Jiang, let me summarize how your research really can help us explain this particular moment, not only with Epstein, but also this kind of crumbling of the Trump administration. And of course, this larger problem of the U.S. is declining power.

I mean, the reality is that America is an empire and never before in human history has an empire done any good in this world. So let me explain what I mean. We look at historically the three ways in which people get rich. What are three major sources of wealth? First, slavery, which includes human trafficking, prostitution. It includes debt, which includes gambling and finance. And the last thing is drugs, narcotics smuggling. So you look at the Opium Wars in which basically Britain turned China into a slave state. That apparatus never went away, right? Because you need a very sophisticated apparatus to run that sort of operation where you enslave an entire nation using opium. That apparatus became the financial centers of the world. Hong Kong, Paris, New York, London. So that's what finance is based on. It's all based on money laundering for drugs. And that's what an empire is. An empire exercises power, creates wealth through these three major mechanisms.

So an empire is a nexus of organized crime, civil societies, intelligence agencies, the most evil, powerful people in the world. So now that the American empire is declining, we should be celebrating. Because hopefully there'll be less evil in the world because of the decline of empire. At the same time, what we do know is that when an empire declines, it never goes peacefully. It clings on to power in a way that could cause the entire world to be destroyed. And that's what we're seeing today. That's why we're seeing these wars all around the world right now.

Yeah, well, you know, you've covered Iran in particular, that war that nearly blew up into a world war. Some say that World War Three is ongoing. But Professor John, I want your comments on, you know, there are major escalations relating to Venezuela right now. And I just want to pull up what Secretary of War Pete Hegseth had to say about it. Recently announcing Operation Southern Spear, led by the Joint Task Force, Southern Spear and South Com, the U.S. Southern Command. This mission defends homeland, removes narco terrorists from our hemisphere and secures our homeland from drugs killing our people. The Western Hemisphere is America's neighborhood. We will protect it. So sounds familiar. Sounds like the Monroe Doctrine, Professor John. And then I just want to pull up some of this buildup here. We have major U.S. destruction. We have major U.S. destroyers coming off of the coast of Venezuela. Now even operating in Venezuela's exclusive economic zone, just 50 kilometers from the capital, Caracas.

Twenty boats have been struck in the recent period by the short -term administration, killing dozens. And governments like Colombia saying that those who survived and came back to shore and were, you know, legally tried, they weren't. They weren't arco terrorists or narco terrorists or whatever that is. They were, you know, poor laborers. Professor John, talk about this coming war. It's what's your assessment of it? Where does it fit within the overall context? Maybe even do you want to bring in game theory, your assessment of where this fits? It reminds me a lot of Iran, to be honest. But please, your thoughts.

Right. So we have to remember that. This. Venezuela affair. It comes right after Trump's meeting with Putin in English Alaska in mid -August. So after that meeting, Trump starts to deploy destroyers towards Venezuela. And as you say, they're just they're just gradual, very forceful buildup of naval power right now off the coast of Venezuela. So that's very curious. Why would that happen? Why would. Why would it that, you know, Trump is trying to negotiate peace in Ukraine? He's met with Putin and we can assume that there'll be more meetings. But what's happened instead of moving towards peace is that Trump has deployed destroyers to Venezuela. But also, much more importantly, we see a Russian breakthrough in Ukraine. So the entire Ukrainian front lines are collapsing. It seems very much that NATO have no choice but to come into the war at some point. In order to shore up the front lines of Ukraine, prevent a complete implosion.

So this is all very curious. Now, I don't know why this is happening, but I do find the timing very suspicious. OK, that's point one. Point two is that no one has figured out why this is happening. OK, so we can say it's for oil. But look, the reality is this. The reality is that if you're America, you need oil. You can buy it from Venezuela. Really, really cheap. It is much more problematic. It's much more expensive, much more consequential for you to invade a country to steal its oil than to just, you know, buy off the elite and grab the elite and steal its oil. OK, that's what America's been doing for the past hundred years. It's worked out really well. So why would you go invade Venezuela? Also, the oil issue is problematic because oil is actually pretty capital intensive to refine in Venezuela. You need a lot of pretty. High grade technology.

It's very capital intensive. It's labor intensive. It's cost prohibitive. And that's why, you know, Venezuela has not risen to the ranks of great oil powers in the way that Saudi Arabia has. So I know that Venezuela has the world's largest oil reserves, but it's pretty hard to access, pretty expensive to access it. So the oil thing doesn't really make sense. Now, some people say, well, it's just geopolitical. In that, you know, Russia is about to win the war and Ukraine. And so America needs to show off its hegemony by beating up a beat up Venezuela. Well, yeah, I understand that argument, but it doesn't really make sense either, because, like, who would take you seriously if you go invade Venezuela? Also, remember that Venezuela, it's mountainous. So it's very hard to invade and occupy and defend Venezuela. So you can go and attack Venezuela. That's fine. But what does that really get you?

And also, it could turn into quagmire where you have troops in Venezuela and they are attacked by guerrilla warfare, by asymmetrical warfare. So from a military perspective, attacking Venezuela doesn't really make any sense. It really doesn't get you anything. OK. Also, if you attack Venezuela, you're going to create a dumpster fire. In Latin America. Because you still have to deal with Cuba. You still have to deal with Nicaragua. There are lots of enemies that the United States has to deal with in Latin America. Latin America is a huge place. Do you really want to send millions of soldiers to occupy and colonize Latin America? So it doesn't really make any sense what's happening. So let me offer you an explanation. OK. And I don't know if this explanation makes any sense, but I'm going to offer you my explanation. And we can just wait and see what happens. To see if this theory makes any sense.

OK. So the Trump administration says that they're doing this to stop the flow of drugs into America. And everyone's like, well, that's retarded because most of the drugs is coming from Mexico or Canada. It's not coming from Venezuela. This makes absolutely no sense. OK. But let's just assume that what Trump says has validity. That, in fact, they are targeting drugs. Well, why would they do that? So a theory is. That this is part, again, of the elite civil war going on in America right now between the nationalists and the globalists. Remember, I just said that an empire engages in drug smuggling as a way to generate wealth for its elite members. And drug smuggling is a very important component of the global financial economy. Right. Because the city of London, Wall Street, Hong Kong, Dubai, they're all designed really to want to launder money. So when you attack them. Drug flow. When you stop drug flow, that creates a lot of problems for the elite.

So, OK, given that we have this theory, how can we test it out? Well, if this theory makes any sense, then one, I don't think the United States will actually attack Venezuela. The point of this huge naval presence is actually to disrupt the drug smuggling going on. OK. The second is that I think Trump may turn his attention to the Mexican cartels because that's where the real money is. Right. These Mexican drug cartels are really controlled by the CIA and the global deep state and the financial elite of the world. So I think that I cannot possibly imagine the United States launching a ground invasion of Venezuela. It would make absolutely no sense. I could foresee, though, operations against Mexican cartels. So so so that's why I think and I could be completely wrong. OK, I'm speculating because like I have no idea what's going on.

Well, let's keep up with this. You know, the the Trump administration has said they're pondering land strikes right there. They're pondering all sorts of options on the table. But they've been doing this for quite a long time. I mean, we're talking about weeks now, weeks and weeks and weeks, foreshadowing, foreshadowing. What do you make then of what's happening? I think what some have said is kind of another attempt to knock off another chess piece in this larger building, multipolar world, because Venezuela's relationship to Russia, to China, to Iran is pretty strong. And even Venezuela's president, Nicolas Maduro, has been talking a lot about this. What's your thoughts on this? And then we can get into some of the consequences after this. I have something I want to show you, but please first this.

Yeah. So I, you know, I hate to say this, but I don't think American policymakers, American foreign policy lead, they think that far ahead. I think the problem of Washington, D.C. right now is that it's become very bureaucratic, very corrupt. So it's always like short term interest. In other words, let's not think about how the United States benefits. Let's ask ourselves how a certain faction of American policy lead. Benefits from an attack against Venezuela. Now, we know that if America were to attack Iran, well, this would benefit a lot of political factions within the U .S. deep state. OK, so you have the Zionists. You have the financial elite who want to better control trade in the Middle East. You have these oil interests of the military industrial complex. So I don't know which faction the American foreign policy lead would actually benefit from. From a war in Venezuela. So that's so so so that's that's how I see the world.

I mean, like another way of saying this is the conflict within nation states is far more intense, far more violent and far more important, significant than a conflict between nation states. OK, so I think that what's happening in Venezuela, it's more it's even more like conflict within Washington, D.C., as opposed to geopolitical calculations against Russia and Iran and China.

Now, I want to show you something, Professor Jiang, because there are major consequence to all these wars. I know you've talked a lot about the consequences of what will happen in a possible war with Iran. And Venezuela seems to have some of these elements to it, especially this point that you made about how people, you know, the the military. Occupation or an invasion could have major consequences on how people view, you know, the United States in this region. And I want to show this. This is a video of Nicolas Maduro as there is literally basically a bounty on his head. The United States is actively attempting to regime change him, which often means kill or kidnap. Here is Nicolas Maduro. Thirteen thousand US. Right. Wrong video. Let's let me remove that. Here we go. This is why StreamYard has become absolutely unusable. Here we go.

What is your message to the people of the United States? To unite for the peace of the continent. No more endless wars. No more unjust wars. No more Libya. No more Afghanistan. Do you have a message for President Trump? My message is yes. Peace. Yes. Peace.

And it's so interesting, Professor John, because a lot of people who are pushing, especially the I will call them the MAGA AstroTurf section of the social media class. They've been saying, look how weak he looks when he's in the middle. I mean, he has a bounty on his head. The CIA has announced that they have operations inside of Venezuela. And he's walking around amongst people saying. No war. No, we don't want war. We don't want this to be another Libya, which had a big blowback effect. Talk about what could be the blowback effect here, because Pete Hegseth is talking about almost like Monroe Doctrine 2.0 on steroids. I don't know how that would go down in Latin America should this occur. What's your take?

Listen, if we assume that Donald Trump is interested in igniting a civil war in America. If Donald Trump were interested in accelerating the collapse of American empire, then that helps us explain exactly why he's doing what he's doing. Right. Because, as you say, when you send off this massive naval force and threaten the people of Venezuela, what they will do is they will rally behind their leader. They and this leader will become almost invincible. Not only that, but many Latin American countries will rally. And support Venezuela as well. You're almost like uniting all Latin America against the US empire. So why should I do this? I don't know. Okay. But like one data point is more like during the Canadian elections, Mark Carney was the liberal candidate. And Donald Trump said, hey, you know, we should make Canada our 51st state. And he was joking about annexing Canada. And Mark Carney, who was part, he's the leader of the Liberal Party.

And the Liberal Party has been in power in Canada for like 10 years. And they were extremely disliked. Okay. Canadians just hate the Liberal Party. But because Trump was saying this crap, okay, he's saying, you know, like, you know, let's annex Canada. Carney surged in the polls and he's still in power. The Liberal Party is still in power. So you're like. Okay. Like either this guy, Donald Trump, is the dumbest guy in the world or he's the smartest guy in the world. Either like the guy is completely incompetent or he's playing like five -dimensional chess, right? So if you just assume that Trump wanted to instigate a civil war and he wants to accelerate the collapse of the American empire, then what he's doing around the world makes perfect sense, right? So I'm sorry.

No, yeah. No, no. I mean, you know, it is really. It is really interesting because with Venezuela, too, there is this other element as well. Marco Rubio, for example, having huge political connections to those who hate the Venezuelan government, who hate the Cuba government, any government that espouses any sovereignty at all. They hate Marco Rubio doesn't him and the people in Miami. So there's a lot of elements here. I'm curious on. Where it fits within also this larger picture of the U.S. As an empire, not really able to get what it wants. Do you find that it could be that Venezuela is simply being calculated here as an easier target than, let's say, in Iran, which failed dramatically in June of twenty twenty five? The three plus year proxy war in Ukraine not going their way. I mean, China, forget about it. Yeah. Yeah. You know, you know, you predicted here that there would be a detente of a kind.

And right now it seems there is at the very least while there's still aggressive. You know, I don't think we can ever say the U.S. Empire will not be aggressive toward countries. It doesn't like. But on this trade issue, it had to cave pretty badly. And we see we see a pause there. So where do you think this all fits?

Look, look, you're absolutely right. In that, if America wanted to. Invade Venezuela, it would take two weeks. The American naval power is overwhelming. They could completely destroy all of Venezuela's air defenses very quickly. But what does that get you? Really? It just makes you a pirati state, right? The entire world would be disgusted by your actions. China, Venezuela, China, Iran, Russia would be much more popular. They would come together. They will coalesce more in response. To the violence, the random violence of American empire. Global opinion would completely turn against America. Breaks would be a lot stronger. The Iranian people would be much more prepared and united in case America were to attack. Also, you couldn't possibly hold Venezuela because the Venezuelan people would fight for the freedom. They would die for the freedom. You know, all this guerrilla warfare. It'd be like another Vietnam. So what? So what? So, yeah, you can destroy Venezuela. And you can replace the government.

You can kill Maduro. It's not a problem. It's very easy for the American empire to do this. But it puts you in a very, very difficult position. And it becomes a quagmire. And not only that, but once you do Venezuela, then you're kind of stuck doing Cuba and Nicaragua. And it just becomes a cascading effect. And the American empire just needs to occupy all of South America and Latin America. And maybe it will. Okay? But if it were to do that, then the American empire would collapse very quickly. Because, one, America doesn't have the manpower, the resources, the political will, the manufacturing capacity to actually invade all of South America and to occupy it. That's number one. Number two is the American people would rise up and revolt against you because they're the ones being sent to make these sacrifices. They're the ones who have to pay these taxes to fund these forever wars.

And three is that if you were to do this, you'd be isolated from the rest of the world. Europe, Russia, Africa, Asia would see America as a prior state. And they would basically impose trade embargoes against America. America would lose its authority, its empire in the world. So it would be kind of productive to go invade Venezuela. I'm not saying they won't do it. But I'm just saying that if it were to do that. If it were to do this, then the consequences would be dire.

Yeah. They definitely would be dire. I'm hearing something like there are millions of Venezuelans who are being armed right now to defend their country if there is an invasion. I mean, that alone should give pause because we've already seen how bombing, right? Just bombing a country like, for example, Iran. That seemed to be more theater because there wasn't really any possibility to do more. With Venezuela, you're talking about a country that's right smack in the middle of the backyard for the United States. And that means every other country is going to be wondering what happens to us if we don't do what the United States likes. And does that mean we need to find another path? What do you think about that?

Look, look, look, look. If you bomb Venezuela, Venezuela is not going to sit back. They're going to strike back and they might destroy a U.S. destroyer. And so it would be a slow mission creep. It would be provocation. The United States would find itself embroiled in a war. And you're absolutely right in that if the United States were to attack Venezuela, all of South America would unite and rally behind Venezuela because they would know that we're next. Brazil, Argentina, Chile. They're not going to sit back and wait for American empire to come after them because they know that once they go after Venezuela, they would have broken a consensus. They would have broken an understanding that's lasted for hundreds of years. You know, the moral doctrine, yeah, the moral doctrine says that the Western Hemisphere belongs to America. But at the same time, the moral doctrine implies that America is a protector of the Western Hemisphere.

And so it doesn't go around and invade the countries of the Western Hemisphere. If America were to actually launch an invasion of Venezuela and occupy the country, then that would compel response from all of South America.

Yeah. And all of South America is not necessarily aligned here. I mean, we have many different situations with every country. And as it stands, that wouldn't be the case. But things change a lot when they're aligned. There's a major U.S. intervention.

Look, if you threaten a people's national sovereignty, if you destroy their dignity, their freedom, their sense of independence, they will respond violently. We've seen this throughout history. You know, you go back and look at Vietnam. Before the invasion of Vietnam, before the American presence in Vietnam, we couldn't possibly expect a sort of courageous response from the Vietnamese people. And remember, like, it was not really the North Vietnamese. It was not really the Chinese or Soviet Union that defeated the Americans. It was the Vietnamese people themselves that defeated the American military. Why? Because they love freedom. And all people are like that.

Yeah. And they were ready to be done. I mean, they kicked out the French. They had elected a president. They had a government. You know, right after World War II, they had it. I think it was August 45. Yeah. And then it wasn't too long afterward that they no longer had it. You know, with the U.S., the U.N. coming in, the U.S., the French, et cetera. French at the back end helping the U.S. Professor Zhang, my final question to you then is where are we on this World War III situation? Right? Because that's really where all of this appears to be going. There are bigger players that the U.S., it seems, can't really touch right now or at least can't touch in the way they want to. Pardon the reference given all the Epstein talk we've been having. But they can't do anything with them to a significant degree, affect an outcome.

But where are we in this World War III nexus, so to speak?

Yeah. So I would say the major flashpoint in the world right now is what's happening in Ukraine. The reason why is that the Ukrainian frontlines has collapsed. Russia has had multiple breakthroughs this past week. The city of Provozhsk has fallen, which allows Russia to control the Donbas region. And the Donbas is important because it is the agricultural industrial heartland of Ukraine. So in effect, Ukraine has lost the war. And there's really no way for Ukraine to come back. They lost anywhere between one to two million people. Two million fighting -age men in this war. Millions of Ukrainians have fled the country, and they will never come back. The Zelenskyy government is plagued with corruption. So there's news that this past week someone who was very close to Zelenskyy has fled Ukraine for Israel. And he was notorious for being corrupt. And that's not just one person. It's the entire regime. You've got these dozens of high -level military officers in Ukraine that have benefited tremendously from corruption in the war.

So Ukraine is lost. The war is lost. The problem is that if Ukraine is lost, if NATO admits to losing this war, then there's a threat that there will be a political earthquake throughout Europe. Because... NATO and Europe have invested heavily in this war. They literally expect that Ukraine will win this war, and they can just collect reparations from Russia. They froze $200 billion of Russian assets in European banks. So they cannot afford to lose the war. They cannot explain to their people how, for the past four years, in the media, there's this narrative that Ukraine is about to march all the way to Moscow. And then suddenly, oops, sorry, we were lying to you. We were gaslighting you. Sorry, we've lost the war. So the political elite in Europe cannot withstand a loss. The Zelenskyy government cannot possibly withstand a peace.

So we can expect this war to accelerate. We can expect NATO to send in more forces to shore up the defenses of Ukraine. Remember that NATO officers, NATO special forces, NATO weaponry are already in Ukraine. But we can expect that over the next few months, these volunteers, okay, volunteers, will be sent to Ukraine to fight with the Ukrainian army. The Ukrainian army has collapsed. You're talking about like 100,000 of desertions. So what I'm watching, and I think what everyone should be watching, is what happens in Ukraine for the next two months. The real concern is that NATO involves itself in a war. And if it does that, it cannot extricate itself from the war. It's all or nothing. The other thing that we have to remember is that the Western model of fighting a war is through debt financing, okay? So like the example is, you look at the Napoleonic Wars, right, where basically the Bank of England was financing all these European powers to fight France.

And that led to like seven wars. Why? Because even though Napoleon was defeating all his enemies, the Bank of England could not afford to admit defeat because it would mean that the entire debt would be wiped out. And the entire nation of England would be wiped out. So it's all a Ponzi scheme. Europe has invested heavily in this Ponzi scheme, in this war in Ukraine. And if it ever admits defeat, then the entire Ponzi scheme collapses and all of Europe collapses as well. So we can expect a massive escalation of war in Ukraine over the next few months. And next year.

Well, that seems to contradict Donald Trump's promise to end the war. You know, forget 24 hours at all. I don't know if you saw and we're, you know, we're about the at the end here. The United States is considering deporting Ukrainians and Ukraine is saying they're going to use those Ukrainians at the front lines. It's an absolute embarrassment, really, for Ukrainians who have been living in the U.S. And, you know, these Ukrainians are said to have committed crimes. Immigration status, whatever. But if they're deported and then maybe we'll never hear about them again. But they're deported. The Ukrainian government, Zelensky, they're all saying, yeah, we need men for the front line. I mean, this is this is how bad it's getting.

Look, look, look. The reality is that there's a high possibility of a revolution in Ukraine. There's a high possibility of coup d 'etat in in in Ukraine because the military feels betrayed by Ukraine. Zelensky and the Americans, the Europeans. Look, the reality is that we should have been in this war in the first place. Right. Putin and Zelensky had a deal like three years ago. Then Boris Johnson flies into Kiev and says, hey, man, don't worry about Russia. We will finance you. We'll give you all the weaponry you need to defeat. Russia is a paper tiger. You fight them. Russia will collapse. You'll march to Moscow. You'll work for Putin. And then you'll be the hegemon of of Europe. So all these promises, all these guarantees were made to the Ukrainian people. Ukrainian people have lost millions of people in this war. They've lost their country. They lost their nation state. If there were ever

a peace, I guarantee you that elements of the Ukrainian military would stage political assassinations against people like Zelensky.

Surprised that hasn't happened already. Professor Jung, this was a great conversation. I want to make sure that everyone knows that your sub stack is in the video description before we head out of here. I also want to let everyone know to hit that like button before you head out of here. And lastly, I want you all to know that I do have Mark Sloboda on 2 p.m. Eastern tomorrow. So I'm putting that link in the chat right now and the video description. And it will be public right after this show is over. So we will be talking even more deeply and even more with more time. On what's happening in Ukraine. So that is going to be there now. That show is in the video description. So, Professor Jung, anything you want to say in final words before we head out of here?

No, no, it's always fun. And I hope to do this again. And yeah, of course, you know, and I'm just as confused as everyone right now. That's what's happening. OK. But again, I say that if you just work with the assumption that Trump, for whatever reason, wants to get a civil war in America and wants to accelerate the collapse of the American empire, a lot of things make more sense.

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