Jiang interprets Dante's allusion by linking Pallas and Athena to Romulus and Remus through the repeated structure of one twin killing the loved counterpart to found or secure power.
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Myth
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A participant recalls the Apollo pursuit myth as background for the allusion Jiang is invoking.
He argues Mussolini understood the nation-state's real purpose as fighting wars and that a mythology of war can make people happily fight and die.
Religion is defined here as a long-lost memory of the ancient past told through myths and stories, containing truth because it encodes historical and personal experience.
Romans behave according to myths they believe, so false stories still become real social scripts.
The Trojan War legend begins as a mythic escalation of status, sex, divine rivalry, and trade conflict around Troy.
Cave paintings are treated as purposeful adult religious artworks that express dreams, legacy, mythology, and a cycle of life, death, destruction, renewal, and balance.
In Jiang's island model, existential danger produces a new common language, founding myth, religion, rituals, and leader among otherwise unrelated men.
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"Yeah, that's a great question. Does anyone know the answer? It's actually a very hard question. So I want to thank you for pointing..."
"...is very confusing for people, is that he tends to combine myths together. Okay? So you have the myth of Pallas and Athena. What..."
"That person was running from Apollo because Apollo was chasing her."
"And it was Mussolini who basically understood that the real purpose of a nation -state is to fight wars. In fact, it is wars..."
"We have created our myth. The myth is a faith, a passion. It is not necessary for it to be a reality. It is..."
"Yeah. Something I found fascinating from our conversation yesterday when we'd had a chat was that your belief, that you have a belief that..."
"...he was a master media manipulator. Okay. So he created the myth that there are these people who are seeking to conquer the world...."
"because if you're just this average Joe and you read about these guys, you're like, this is actually pretty cool. Yeah, I should join..."
"...memory or long lost memory of our ancient past told through myths and stories. So, there's truth to religion because it's basing a lot..."
"yeah no i think that's fair um yeah i let me preface this um with uh my approach here because i think we are..."
"...mythology of hitler and nazism is very strong it's the founding myth and it does a lot of work obviously for the support of..."
"you thinking like i'm not very satisfied with the way this conversation is going and i raised my hand and i basically said monsters..."
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