The same student answers that Dante's real goal is not material pleasure but spiritual good, using the pilgrim's ascent through heaven while still in the flesh as evidence.
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Material pleasure
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He says Frankism changes the Jewish timetable by claiming the Messiah is already here and that chaos, sin, and material pleasure can accelerate the messianic age.
Jiang characterizes Frankist eschatology as a rejection of spiritual transcendence: at the end of history humans should remain flesh, enjoy material pleasures without limit, and gain immortality inside the world rather than leave it.
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"...he's trying to say is that we have to pursue not material pleasures, but a spiritual good."
"prove it okay but like you have to eat but there's a lot of things that you have to do to get to the..."
"...forever and we can be young forever and we can enjoy material pleasures all the time right so ask yourself why Elon Musk is..."
"Does that make sense? So that is the Jewish eschatology. And most Jews believe this. Then you have the Frankists, okay? And the Frankists,..."
"...intervene. And then during the messianic age, what will happen is material pleasure, okay? So rather than everyone being spiritual and pure, we'll have..."
"...that. So we get lost and get confused and we seek material pleasures. And in this chaos, a ruler will come. And try to..."
"...aspires to divine light, but the, but the body aspires to material pleasures. Okay. Does that make sense? Okay. All right. Thanks guys. So..."
"...just a body and desire to fulfill the body which means material pleasures okay so in the kabbalah"
"...this constant conflict between the soul and the body, which seeks material pleasures, which basically seeks sin. All right? And again, what Virgil will..."
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