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In 2003, when the American military overran Iraq and they went to Baghdad and seized all the files of Iraqi intelligence, okay, the spy service for the Iraqis, what they discovered is, these huge documents showing that the Iraqis believed that the House of Saud, the Saudi royal family, were in fact Sabbateans. They were crypto Jews. The Iraqis were actually convinced that, like the leaders of Turkey, the leaders of Saudi Arabia were also Sabbateans, okay? So, that's how powerful the faith in Sabbate -Zabi is, and it's still relevant to us today. This obviously leads us to a question. How did they get into these positions of power? How was it that the Sabbateans were able to slowly climb the ashrams of power, both in the Arabian desert, as well as the Ottoman Empire, and one day seize the reins of power? 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But my guess is this. We don't know what the actual connection between the British Empire and the Sabbateans are, but I would say it is extremely strong. Why? Because the British Empire, they are a naval power. They're not a land power. Therefore, they don't fight wars. They engage in diplomacy. They engage in spycraft. They like to undermine nations. And their biggest opponent at that time was the Ottoman Empire. And now, in the Ottoman Empire, you have these crypto Jews, the Sabbateans, who could be bribed or convinced to become your agents in the Ottoman Empire. And the way you do that is you have the Sabbateans join your secret society, the Freemasons. So an example of this alliance between the Sabbateans and the British Empire are the Rothschilds, the Rothschild family. It is rumored that they are a Sabbatean family. 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And so this is often called Sabbatean Frankism. So let's get to the Frankism part. 50 years after Zevi converts in 1666, 50 years later, another guy is born, Jacob Frank. He's born into a Sabbatean family, and he eventually comes to claim to be the reincarnation of Zevi. Let me read from your post here, and then you can take us deeper. But you write, born into a Sabbatean family, Jacob Frank, 1726 to 1791, believed he was the reincarnation of both the 17th century Jewish messiah, Sabatai Zevi, as well as the patriarch, Jacob. He and his followers converted to Catholicism, and the Kabbalistic mystic died a wealthy man protected by his own militia. His followers included prominent European nobility, bankers, and intellectuals, and he enjoyed the patronage of the people, the royal families of Russia and Austria. 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He says that the Illuminati was founded by three individuals, Adam Weishaupt, Jacob Frank, and the Rothschild family, because the Rothschild family provided the..." }, { "ref": "video:interview-f7n-6pid0tk@transcript:v1#seg-0027", "segment_id": "seg-0027", "start": 1262.05, "end": 1324.03, "time_label": "21:02", "speaker": "SPEAKER_00", "excerpt": "So that's number one. He was very, very close with the European nobility. Number two is you can feel his influence. In the writings of very prominent European intellectuals. So I'll give you an example. Goethe, the Germ..." }, { "ref": "video:interview-f7n-6pid0tk@transcript:v1#seg-0028", "segment_id": "seg-0028", "start": 1324.03, "end": 1393.46, "time_label": "22:04", "speaker": "SPEAKER_00", "excerpt": "And so Faust agrees. And they go on these terrible misadventures together. So the first thing they do together is basically rape a young woman. And impregnate her, kill her mother, and kill her brother. And then she kil..." }, { "ref": "video:interview-f7n-6pid0tk@transcript:v1#seg-0029", "segment_id": "seg-0029", "start": 1393.6, "end": 1457.16, "time_label": "23:13", "speaker": "SPEAKER_00", "excerpt": "So the path to knowledge is through constant experimentation, exploration, transgression. And if you do so, you are fighting evil because this world that we live in was created by Satan himself. And so we must destroy t..." }, { "ref": "video:interview-f7n-6pid0tk@transcript:v1#seg-0030", "segment_id": "seg-0030", "start": 1457.24, "end": 1522.3, "time_label": "24:17", "speaker": "SPEAKER_00", "excerpt": "I'm not sure if this makes sense. So please debate me or question me if it doesn't make any sense. When people think about black magic, they think about astrology or numerology, but I would argue that real magic is in s..." }, { "ref": "video:interview-f7n-6pid0tk@transcript:v1#seg-0031", "segment_id": "seg-0031", "start": 1522.44, "end": 1559.04, "time_label": "25:22", "speaker": "SPEAKER_00", "excerpt": "And not only that, starts to sing the song to himself or herself. And this song becomes a virus almost. It seeps into your consciousness. 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"model", "confidence": "medium", "refs_detail": [ { "ref": "video:interview-f7n-6pid0tk@transcript:v1#seg-0068", "segment_id": "seg-0068", "start": 3096.68, "end": 3148.38, "time_label": "51:36", "speaker": "SPEAKER_01", "excerpt": "otherwise otherwise what why are you doing this yeah it's so interesting the first collection of names you mentioned a lot of people would be like well they're Jewish and it's like no they're there's something else and..." }, { "ref": "video:interview-f7n-6pid0tk@transcript:v1#seg-0069", "segment_id": "seg-0069", "start": 3148.38, "end": 3196.56, "time_label": "52:28", "speaker": "SPEAKER_01", "excerpt": "these people lose a billion dollars in a day and they don't actually become homeless they just go on to the next project there's something cool about that a little bit like I I think I wish I had a little more fearlessn..." } ], "lens_points": [], "lens_points_detail": [] }, { "claim": "Jiang says human history repeatedly experiences mini Ice Age or 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That's why he's so powerful. Because he's taking all these conventions, all this understanding, mystical understanding, these spiritual teachings that we've had for..." } ] }, { "term": "free will", "usages": [ "In this packet free will is the loophole both Jiang and Greg attribute to Frank's logic: God-given agency becomes the justification for overruling man-made law." ], "refs": [ "video:interview-f7n-6pid0tk@transcript:v1#seg-0041", "video:interview-f7n-6pid0tk@transcript:v1#seg-0045" ], "refs_detail": [ { "ref": "video:interview-f7n-6pid0tk@transcript:v1#seg-0041", "segment_id": "seg-0041", "start": 1996.35, "end": 2050.81, "time_label": "33:16", "speaker": "SPEAKER_00", "excerpt": "But there's no law that says you can't do that, right? That's why he's so powerful. 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So I do think there's something there. I'm rambling, but the only other thing I wanted to say is that if I had to put a label on my life, I would put a label on my own philosophy. I'd..." }, { "ref": "video:interview-f7n-6pid0tk@transcript:v1#seg-0037", "segment_id": "seg-0037", "start": 1799.7, "end": 1850.04, "time_label": "29:59", "speaker": "SPEAKER_00", "excerpt": "Sure. So I want to pick up on your Gnostic point. So the great thing about Jacob Frank is that he's actually working from the Gnostic framework. 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Keep tabs on Predictive History and I'll see you on the othe..." } ] }, { "term": "Higher Side Meetups", "usages": [ "Greg's community meetup network, presented as a way for listeners to find like-minded locals and offset social atomization." ], "refs": [ "video:interview-f7n-6pid0tk@transcript:v1#seg-0097", "video:interview-f7n-6pid0tk@transcript:v1#seg-0098" ], "refs_detail": [ { "ref": "video:interview-f7n-6pid0tk@transcript:v1#seg-0097", "segment_id": "seg-0097", "start": 4438.36, "end": 4496.13, "time_label": "1:13:58", "speaker": "SPEAKER_01", "excerpt": "ones but at least it seemed okay to put something out that helps those people feel like someone else out there gets it but i know the majority of us are not biblical nor flat earthers so it was always going to get docke..." }, { "ref": "video:interview-f7n-6pid0tk@transcript:v1#seg-0098", "segment_id": "seg-0098", "start": 4496.13, "end": 4559.41, "time_label": "1:14:56", "speaker": "SPEAKER_01", "excerpt": "meetup a digital meetup and they're having a meetup with a virtual meetup on january 2nd this upcoming friday so go to the calendar for more details if you're interested in that january 3rd gilbert arizona desert monks..." } ] }, { "term": "Illuminati", "usages": [ "In this packet the Illuminati is treated not as a lone Bavarian club but as a cross-society alliance that Greg and Jiang connect to Jacob Frank, Adam Weishaupt, Jesuits, Freemasons, and elite financing." ], "refs": [ "video:interview-f7n-6pid0tk@transcript:v1#seg-0025", "video:interview-f7n-6pid0tk@transcript:v1#seg-0026" ], "refs_detail": [ { "ref": "video:interview-f7n-6pid0tk@transcript:v1#seg-0025", "segment_id": "seg-0025", "start": 1157.65, "end": 1194.55, "time_label": "19:17", "speaker": "SPEAKER_01", "excerpt": "Aleister Crowley specifically, but it's this claim about the Illuminati that is most interesting, because that's formed by Isaac Weishaupt, or not Isaac, that's a friend of mine, Adam Weishaupt in 1776 in Bavaria. 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So the great thing about Jacob Frank is that he's actually working from the Gnostic framework. 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